http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/ Engadget HD Comments for PS3 game will actually use Blu-ray capacity, says developer http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 5:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 5:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
I'm sure they'll be some sort of compression because you don't want to load large chunks of uncompressed data off disc-- but maybe that's just me.]]>Aug 22nd 2006 5:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
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Feel free to add any other exclamation of next gen joy in using extra capacity.]]>Aug 22nd 2006 8:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
Blue Ray in the PS3 is a sham. It will provide SOME minor advantage but not nearly enough to justify the price or the 1 year delay vs. the 360, which is getting true second gen games NOW.]]>Aug 22nd 2006 8:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 9:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 9:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/]]>Aug 22nd 2006 9:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 9:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 9:42PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
To further my point.

"The game, he said, currently takes up 22 Gigabytes of memory on a Blu-Ray disc, the new disc format supported by the PS3"... ... "While the music and vocals in "Resistance" take up only about 1 Gigabyte of disc space, graphics, level data and programming code occupy most of the remaining 21." - - MTV

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1539078/20060821/index.jhtml?headlines=true

I know its a horrid site regarding news like this, but you get where I'm coming from.]]>Aug 22nd 2006 10:34PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 22nd 2006 10:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
This game is not compressed, nor does it contain 20 gigs of region coding (puh-lease try again fanboy).

Just accept it. It's a game the Wii60 can't handle.

Rejoice Sony Fanboys, rejoice!]]>Aug 22nd 2006 11:10PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
A few PS3 developers have stated that they aren't using compression, and I wonder why. PS3 will have a 2X Blu-Ray drive, which is half the read speed of a 12X DVD drive. 2X Blu-Ray has a max data read speed of 72Mbps (million bits per sec, which works out to 9 Meg per second), which means 512 meg of ram will take a minute or more to load. Compression could speed this up quite a bit, but it seems Sony would rather use the extra disc space.

This is why large portions of PS3 games will be stored on the hard drive and stay there until the space is needed for something else. 2X is way too slow for gaming.]]>Aug 22nd 2006 11:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/RESPONSE to 6

ps3 1 year late or xbox 360 many years early.
i get my ps2 on december 2000, and enjoy it a 7 full years, still getting a lot of good games in the last year like final fantasy xii.
one friend buy an xbox in march 2002, and enjoy it a crapy 3 years, the 2005 not even have a good game to buy, because the xbox 360.
if the history repeat, and all we know that microsoft loves selling the same product over and over again, with minimal changes; sony say the ps3 will have a 10 years life.
ps3 = $600, 7 years equals $85 for year, less than $100
xbox 360 = $400, 3 years equals $133 for year, more than $100
Guess what console is the most EXPENSIVE...

RESPONSE to 14

i prefer a 2x Blu-ray, that a 12x DVD.
just like i prefer a 2x DVD over a 12x CD.
More clear i prefer a basic today cell with camera, that a top cell from 5 years that not have at least a color screen
why, just because its better technology, and the new do the same that the old and more.
even microsoft, who talk shit for the inside blu-ray in the ps3, now release an hd-dvd add-on, and just for movies... did not microsoft say that a console is meant to be just for playing games, either microsoft dont have memory or just they dont know what the hell are doing.

]]>Aug 23rd 2006 12:09AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
Everything i've seen and read so far has put the BluRay games on the PS3 at 59.99 the exact same price as the DVD games on the 360.

Now of course the games COULD end up being more, but everywhere i've seen games posted they're listed at 59.99]]>Aug 23rd 2006 12:38AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
Also, I am not yet convinced about this game. Looks like a bit of a generic FPS to me. "Shoot everything that moves!"

Personally, as a TimeSplitters fan, I am looking forward to seeing what "Haze" is like. Please, nobody say that I will be able to get that on the 360... I don't care.]]>Aug 23rd 2006 4:05AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 23rd 2006 6:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
The PS3 is looking better and better as it nears launch. Sucks for XBOX fanboys...]]>Aug 23rd 2006 9:42AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
The thing that people have a problem with is that the developers and Sony will be claiming that using more space makes for better, more detailed games when this is not the case. Resistance: Fall of Man could certainly be on a DVD with no loss of quality. If Oblivion on the PC could fit on a DVD, I'm guessing just about any game could.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony wasn't encouraging developers to use as much space as possible. As long as their games have a bigger footprint than the capacity of a 360 disc, it's a feather in their cap.]]>Aug 23rd 2006 9:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/

However theres another way to look at this. The PS3 hasn't even launched yet, and there filling up 22 gigs already. Assuming the PS3 will launch with a drive that can only read 25 gigs, these devs better learn how to use compression.

Considering compression is a numbers game, and the CELL is a very efficient processor when it comes to simple operations (FLOPS) it would make sense that devs would use compression do remove the bottle neck of the Blu Ray drive as it would decrease loading times.

But I guess this is mostly media hype for Blu Ray.]]>Aug 23rd 2006 10:43AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 23rd 2006 11:14AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
#22 Zach: Do you really think Sony would release a BD drive that could only read single layer disks? That would be pointless with BD movies planned to move to dual layer BD disks.

As for caching, I haven't seen anything saying that 25% (5 GB) of ps3 jr's drive being used to cache the BD drive. I'm sure some audio and textures will be.

Let's not forget the ps3 is a linux based system. I keep seeing people mention it only has 512 MB, but both models have HD's and most linux systems use the HD for swap (virtual memory) space. Most of the linux systems I've used have 1-2 times the RAM size for swap and it performs much better than Windows' VM.

I am a Sony fan and plan to buy a ps3 Sr. at or near launch. I have an HDTV and Netflix is already offering BD and HD-DVD movies for rental. I think sony made a mistake removing the HDMI from Jr. and removing vibration from the controller. I also think MS rushed the 360 out the door to beat sony to market at the cost of the 360 fans. With the cash that MS has, there is no reason they couldn't have included an HD in the core system. I see a lot of core systems being traded in at the local gamestop so people can play oblivion. They could have included HD-DVD too. Just like sony they stand to gain from their chosen high def dvd standard. Also like sony, MS wants to rule your media and livingroom. Isn't competition great?!]]>Aug 23rd 2006 12:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 23rd 2006 3:04PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/
]]>Aug 23rd 2006 10:18PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/Aug 23rd 2006 11:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/22/ps3-game-will-actually-use-blu-ray-capacity-says-developer/>>Also like sony, MS wants to rule your media and livingroom. Isn't competition great?!>>>

Vinton, I agree. But I don't want M$ anywhere near my livingroom. Stay out of my home M$!]]>Aug 30th 2006 12:06AM