http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/ Engadget HD Comments for Series 3 to be released September 17th, for $799? http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 8:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
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I was hoping this would be a leased option via your cable company.]]>Aug 27th 2006 11:40PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 27th 2006 11:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 1:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
At $799 MSRP, it is pricy. Hopefully, $799 MSRP will translate into $600 at Unternet vendors like Amazon.com and Buy.com. Tivo is currently running a $150 rebate for its DVRs, so perhaps that will be available as well.

You will have to pay for service -- $12.99/mo if you have one box, $6.99/mo if you have more than one.

Is it worth the price? Obviously that will vary from person to person. There's no question that the Tivo is substantially more reliable in its operation and recordings. It also incorporates a much larger hard drive and supports external expansion with SATA drives, for virtually unlimited HDTV recording capacity.

If you want a DVR with substantially more capacity, that is very easy to use, and offers a very high level of reliability -- i.e. no missed recordings -- then the Series3 may be for you. Personally, I don't mind paying for peace of mind. Coming home from work and finding that the DVR failed to record my favorite show the night before is not an experience that I care to repeat on a regular basis. With the Tivo, I don't have to deal with such things, and that is worth extra money to me.]]>Aug 28th 2006 2:57AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
However, if they're looking to make this a mass market product like their Series 1 and 2, I think they're dreaming, especially when Cox Cable gives me the crappy moto box for hardly anymore than standard HD service.]]>Aug 28th 2006 3:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 10:31AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 12:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
It seems the Series 3 might be in a similar cost range.]]>Aug 28th 2006 8:34AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 9:13AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 9:53AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 9:43AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
With the Tivo service on the Comcast box, you won't get 30sec skip, and it's not clear yet whether Comcast will support hard drive expansion. Note the Motorola boxes from Comcast only have 120Gb (~14hrs of HD) to 160Gb (18-20hrs of HD) of capacity.

If you live in an area that uses Scientific Atlanta equipment, you will not be getting Tivo service from Comcast or Cox before 2008. The Tivo service is only available for Motorola hardware at this time. It could come for Scientific Atlanta later, but the decision to develop the Tivo software for that platform has not yet been made.]]>Aug 28th 2006 10:27AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
I'd pay MSRP, plus the Tivo monthly fee, plus the cable co cablecard monthly fee (x2 b/c it uses two cards) if and when they release this box with cablecard 2.0 capability.

-yo]]>Aug 28th 2006 4:41PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
Tivo may offer a discount if you activate from their site and pay the $16.95 a month fee.
Currently all the boxes they offer on their site are discounted about $219 off retail.

So if this holds true the Series 3, you could see it on their site for about $580 with a service commitment.

This is if the pricing information is accurate.
I won't hold my breath until it's been totally confirmed by more than this one "source". All the other blogs and websites seem to using this "source", which could very well be a DirecTV, Dish, or cable company employee.
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Motorola and Scientific Atlanta both locked cable companies into their equipment via proprietary systems since the early 1990s, so Tivo never had the option of producing their own box for the cable cos.

It was only recently that Motorola began incorporating the cpu and memory necessary to support more functional DVR service like Tivo. In fact, only the Motorola 64xxp3, 34xxp1, and 34xxp2 boxes are have the cpu and memory necessary to run the Tivo software. All of the other models must be replaced.]]>Aug 28th 2006 10:43AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 10:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/$800 for the box + $13 a month for service + $12 month for 2 cablecards...
I'm sorry TiVo, the box looks great, but how can you compete with free equipment that does the same thing?
Get out of the hardware business, fast, and cozy up with SA, Moto, Moxi, Cablevision, Verizon, Time Warner, etc...]]>Aug 28th 2006 11:04AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 11:14AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 11:28AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
I currently own a first-gen (non-nightlight) Series 2, along with a Sony DHG-HDD250 HD-DVR. It is really one of the ONLY competitors to this TiVo product. I have had the Sony for about 10 months, and to be honest, I can see why it has already been discontinued. It also has a cablecard slot, but just one tuner. The guide is provided by Gemstar (TV Guide On Screen). The guide is frustratingly unreliable, as the PBS station in my area has a difficult time keeping their data broadcast equipment online.

When the guide on the Sony stops working, it becomes a glorified VCR that you can't set the time on manually! Don't get me wrong - when it works it works pretty well. When it locks up while you fast forward or rewind a program, it just irriates me.

I would love to have the reliable TiVo guide for an HD recorder]]>Aug 28th 2006 11:38AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 1:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
$350 on closeout. Just awesome.]]>Aug 28th 2006 11:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
-h
]]>Aug 28th 2006 12:08PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 12:32PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 12:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Free Box, Free Service..

Seriously,

$499.00 seems like a winner.]]>Aug 28th 2006 1:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
The Series 3 is not for them. Its for you and me, the people who care about this stuff and take the time to read and post on HDbeat.]]>Aug 28th 2006 1:42PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 1:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 5:32PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/-R]]>Aug 28th 2006 2:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 2:10PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 3:30PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 3:51PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 9:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
And that if you owned a TiVo that could record HD, and you could expand the storage space ad infinitum (nearly) with the eSATA interface, why bother with non-HD VOD and be dependant upon the short (15-30-day in my region) VOD-availability lifetime of old shows?

I'll wait to see what rebates/bundle deals on service are available and jump in after the first price drop or Best Buy sale/coupon :)]]>Aug 28th 2006 4:51PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 5:04PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 7:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/Aug 28th 2006 10:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
$799.99($600maybe online) for the box

$12.99 a month

$XX.XX? (maybe 5.99 each) for the 2 cable cards that your cable provider will charge you for. (that's if they even let you rent the cards at all.

Uhh???]]>Aug 28th 2006 7:18PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
Give 'em six months to work the bugs out in wide-scale customer-supported beta, and they'll be offering the usual $150 or more rebates.

Anybody know what processor and how much RAM are in the Series 3 boxes? Any idea about what kind of ethernet throughput to expect?]]>Aug 29th 2006 2:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/08/27/series-3-to-be-released-september-17th-for-799/
"Dummy (number system 4) UPCs are for private use. This means anybody (typically a retailer) that needs to assign a UPC to an item that doesn't already have one, can use any number system 4 UPC it chooses. Most importantly, they can know that by doing so, they won't pick one that may already be used. So, such a UPC can and does mean something different depending on who you ask, and there's no reason to try to keep track of what products these correspond to."

http://www.upcdatabase.com/dummyupc.asp?session-id=007a881736f4a0010b3f46ba9bd13e82&upc=0400079744186
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