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The whole add-on thing is a great stratergy if you ask me, it give consumers choice, not making them feel like they are locked into a format.

Bar all us techies I doubt the joe bloggs care much about the lack of HDMI.]]>Oct 11th 2006 12:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 12:51PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 12:54PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
I'm guessing it won't be as quite as a stand alone but if your looking at that sort of setup you'd probibly get a stand alone anyway.

As for the PS3 option.... I'm in the UK, I have wait 4 months to find out how loud it'll be!]]>Oct 11th 2006 1:04PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 12:56PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 1:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
Having said that, add-ons have always failed. And, this one doesnt do games and its bigger than the Wii.]]>Oct 11th 2006 12:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 1:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
all demo kiosks and adverts use Samsung TV.]]>Oct 11th 2006 1:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 1:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/another $25 in dongles, and the complaining is over! 360-HDMI!]]>Oct 11th 2006 1:55PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/another $25 in dongles, and the complaining is over! 360-HDMI!"

Not really, it may end with a HDMI connector at the end but since you have a DVI and an analog VGA step in there you will be limited to what data can go across the cable, not to mention the problems with HDCP handshake issues and the looming broadcast flag. Your idea is probably worse than just using component.]]>Oct 11th 2006 2:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
My LCD TV only outputs 1080i anyways, no problem for me. I'm picking this up on release."

Haha, stupid posts like this are why people need to realize that HDMI, and to some degree 1080p, is meaningless to people. This guy does not even know that since no LCD is interlaced his TV is only capable of outputting a progressive image. He likely does not even realize his LCD probably has a 720p resolution rather than 1080 anything. Buddy it is a problem for you and me because you are just another ignorant consumer and until people wake up we will have to keep dealing with products produced and marketed for the foolish masses. ]]>Oct 11th 2006 1:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
But, my point is, I don't give a shit about 1080p. I have 1080i. And, if the picture isn't clear enough in 1080i, I'll just use 720p. I'm not a videophile like you, Justin.

I'm not ignorant, I research products before I buy them. Sure, a lot of people do that, but a lot don't understand the technical mumbo jumbo. Plus, this HD TV is the first one I've ever had, it's the best TV I've ever had, and it works awesomely with my 360, LG 26LX1D.]]>Oct 11th 2006 2:55PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
That said, VGA->DVI conversion is not as simple as having a cable and it does cost a decent amount of money to do, so it's still not a feasible solution.]]>Oct 11th 2006 2:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Also who wants all these "attachments" in his living room? Maybe in your garage it is ok, but still looks like @ss.]]>Oct 11th 2006 2:08PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/ M$ is just playing the game, At CES the only thing Sony kept on touting about was how great it was becuase it did 1080p and Blu Ray.

We all know 1080p is a joke (or you should at least) when it comes to HD DVD and Blu Ray DVD.

There are many ignorant ppl out there, that are on the Sony Bandwagon that are going to wait because they think the sony is apparently "better" becuase it does 1080p. M$ is just counter acting that buy doing the 1080p software upgrade and doing an addon HD DVD drive.

I garontee you that M$ will come out with a revision unit that will have HDMI and built in HD DVD drive within a year. but till that happens to caputre more ppl they did the 1080p software upgrade so they can tout that the Xbox 360 can NOW do 1080p and HD DVD so it'll give the ingnorant fools out there that warm and fuzzy feeling just like Sony is giving ppl about the PS3.

Honestly I think both devices are a waste of money, but If I had to choose I'd definately would get a 360 over a PS3, but i'd wait till the revision unit came out.]]>Oct 11th 2006 3:24PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
You should know better.

1080i = 1920x1080 with 60 half frames per second, 30 full frames
1080p = 1920x1080 with X full frames per second, where X is 24, 30, or 60.

The exact same number of pixels.

Movies encoded on bluray/hddvd? 1080p but only 24 full frames per second.

Advantage gained by using 1080p over 1080i to send it to your TV? Virtually none. If your display's deinterlacer sucks, sure, it'll make a difference. But that's a really, really, really rare situation.

For almost all people there is no quality loss when displaying an HDDVD or Bluray disc over 1080i vs 1080p.

Stop swallowing Sony et alia's marketing hook, line, and sinker.]]>Oct 11th 2006 2:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection]]>Oct 11th 2006 4:08PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/I should also mention, we are all talking about blu ray vs HDDVD, what about games, what a disappointing launch for the PS3, the only games that spark any of my interest will also be on XBOX360, and how about xbox live, it is one of the greatest things microsoft has been able to accomplish since they got into the console business. Sony still has not sent specs on there network to game developers according to IGN.com.
I know some may see me as a xbox fan, but I dont even own one, nor plan to anytime soon, PC (if you have the money for $1000 vid cards and all the other good stuff) still puts any console to shame, and I cant wait for DirectX10.
Cheers]]>Oct 11th 2006 2:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Your LCD does not output 1080i at all.
And you can't switch an LCD screens resolution from 1080i to 720p. You get the native res, and that's it.
You probably have a 1080p set.]]>Oct 11th 2006 3:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 3:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/I'm actually attending a demo of the 360 HD-DVD prototype tonight, and there will be 1080p sets available for testing.
I hope they bring a 360 vga cable...
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This is very easily proven by using a DVI->HDMI adapter and plugging it into your computer, which doesn't have HDCP.

I said, quote, "The display never requires HDCP, the transmitter does. You can feed a DVI signal without HDCP to a display over HDMI and it'll work just fine, with no HDCP handshake problems."

And I'm 100% correct. The transmitter, like the HD-DVD drive or player or cable box may require HDCP. The display doesn't care.

Since the Xbox 360 doesn't have an HDCP/HDMI chips of software, if it spits out 1080p over VGA and you convert that to DVI, it will be DVI without HDCP, just like your computer sends out. If you then use a DVI->HDMI cable, it'll still be without HDCP. The display won't care, since it's just getting a clean, unencrypted digital signal.

Yes, if the ICT token goes on the VGA connection will suddenly no longer be able to do 960x540, but I wasn't addressing that. And, since you said "broadcast flag" and not "ICT", which are very different things, I assumed you didn't know what you were talking about.

You can convert 1080p over VGA to 1080p over DVI. Assuming you're getting a 1080p signal out through your VGA port, there's no problem.

Any problem relating to ICT will be within the Xbox 360, and outside the purview of my comments. I was merely addressing the challenge of converting a 1080p VGA signal to a 1080p DVI signal.]]>Oct 11th 2006 4:27PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 4:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 12th 2006 3:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/Oct 11th 2006 11:33PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/http://hd.engadget.com/2006/10/11/xbox-360-hd-dvd-ad-6x-the-resolution-6x-the-breakdancers/
The VGA cable isn't a digital signal and doesn't send anything like the same information as a DVI or HDMI, As far as I'm aware VGA cables pass an RGB Analogue signal, and are NOT compatable. Some very early DVI connections where also analogue if I remember, but you still wouldn't be able to go

Analogue VGA-Analogue DVI-Digital HDMI

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