http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/ Engadget Comments for Engadget HD Podcast 037 - 12.13.2006 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 13th 2006 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 13th 2006 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 13th 2006 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 13th 2006 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
I really enjoy the show and have been listening since you and Warren had your first netcast argument. I too found the long-standing arguments in favor of blu-ray persuasive and resisted any suggestions that HD DVD might succeed, but the facts aren't stacking up in favor of an outright win for blu-ray.

Evidence?

Take a look at www.thedvdwars.com, where you will see that the 4th highest selling HD DVD title outsells the top blu-ray title on Amazon.

There are likely to me far more HD DVD players sold this holiday season: http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/11/29/enderle_on_christmas_trends/

I also happen to be one of those people who prefers to wait until the bugs are worked out and a second generation product is released before buying. Like it or not, the Toshiba HD-A2 is a second gen player. This is a painful admission for me to have to make (as someone who has been planning for several years to buy a blu-ray player), but...last Saturday morning I walked out of my local Best Buy with an HD DVD player in hand. At this point I can't see HD DVD going away. At best, there will be a stalemate.]]>Dec 13th 2006 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 13th 2006 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
For what it's worth, I think HD-DVD is the better value as a >$200 add-on for 360 or a stand-alone player at 50% the cost of a Blu-ray player. Seems like a no-brainer to me if you can live without certain Blu-ray only content.]]>Dec 14th 2006 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 14th 2006 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
Also the biggest impulse buy for the Xbox360 Video Marketplace would have to be TV shows. If you missed last night show or your local station bumps the HD coverage for a night it can be a great reason to pick out a show. I do agree that the market places really needs an option to start the download from work and come home to it already downloaded option.

]]>Dec 14th 2006 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/For savy internet users price is important, for most Videophiles and home theater enthusitas it isn't as importnat. I mean some of these guys have been paying 1k for Pioneer Elite DVD players the past few years. For big money HT people it depends on what their Vendor is selling them.

Sure in the long run price is very important, but I don't think either format will be more popular than DVD till it costs about the same price as DVD.

The question is which format can wait that long? Sure Toshiba claims to be making money on their players but do you believe them? No doubt BDA players turn a profit, they can hang out and wait ]]>Dec 14th 2006 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
It would interesting to see the attachment numbers for HDDVD and how much money Toshiba gets per disc. Their manufacturing cost will only go down not go up so the money they loose now establishing the market could be made up quickly. ]]>Dec 14th 2006 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
Don't get me wrong I can see a scenario where HD DVD wins and the first step to that is when either Pioneer, Sharp, Samsung, Mitsubishi, Panasonic or dare I say Sony starts making a HD DVD player.

I don't see any way for them to win as long as they are the only company making stand alone player. ]]>Dec 14th 2006 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 15th 2006 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 15th 2006 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
Personally, I think when HD-DVD players reach $249 on store shelves then the Blu-Ray-only studios (Sony excepted, of course) will start supporting both formats. I'd say $249 is the "what the heck" price for mid-level consumers to make the jump.

Content is king. So far the only disc out there that I'me jealous of Blu-Ray of is Talladega Nights. In 12 months, you can add SpiderMan3 to that list, but I'm happy as a 360 HD-DVD owner.]]>Dec 15th 2006 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/
The HD-DVD Blu-Ray discussion really turned me off. When HD-DVD is currently succeeding and kicking Blu-Rays butt in sales, and your predicting its going to fail and has no chance just smacks of stupidity.

Also HD-DVD is backed by the DVD Forum, not just Toshiba. Please educate yourself before you go announcing BS to the world.]]>Dec 16th 2006 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/13/engadget-hd-podcast-037-12-13-2006/Dec 19th 2006 1:27PM