http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/ Engadget Comments for VESA approves DisplayPort 1.1: kiss those DVI and VGA ports goodbye http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/I've seen plenty of times when where a monitor cable was hanging on for dear life and the only thing keeping it from being pulled out of the video card was the fact that you could screw the connector down. I hope that when they release monitors using this interface they can be disconnected at the monitor also because I'm sure there will be more then a few broken ends on these cables. ]]>Apr 4th 2007 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
when do u guys think we might see these kinds of plugs on future video card products? Late 2007? 2008?]]>Apr 4th 2007 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Hopefully this will allow for extra long lengths of cable for those of us with projectors and HTPCs]]>Apr 4th 2007 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Surely HDMI = DVI + HDCP + sound
and DisplayPort = DVI + HDCP

So really they are annoucing a connection that does less than is alreay available just because it comes in a smaller package? Have I missed something?]]>Apr 4th 2007 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
... and the reason this is introduced is cuz it's FREE unlike HDMI which requires a royalty payment. More dueling standards.]]>Apr 4th 2007 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 4:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
I don't know HDMI's limits but I can't see why it would need to go beyond 1080P.

First computers to use it... I'd put money on Apple being one of the first - especially since resolution independence has been one of the key aims of Leopard and there are new Cinema Displays overdue.]]>Apr 4th 2007 5:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
It's a open VESA standard = no royalties.

Manufacturers have to pay license fees on each item sold with an HDMI connection.
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Apple is certainly willing to use proprietary connectors provided they are cheap and users have to buy cables from Apple. Of course, Apple doesn't do their own video cards or motherboards anymore so it's moot. It's whatever Intel, ATI and nVidia give them.

Apple has been dead last in the industry as far as resolution independence and high resolution are concerned. To this day, Apple preaches 100 dpi when the industry has been past that for a decade. Apple can talk resolution independence but until they deliver it's all just noise. Let's see a 17" Macbook Pro with a real, WUXGA screen. How about a 30" 3840x2400 Cinema display (as god intended)? Apple right now is king of low resolution and rhetoric, that's all.]]>Apr 4th 2007 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Apple DOES have a 17" with a WUXGA screen option, it was released a couple months ago. I guess I haven't noticed any "3840 x 2160" monitors at 30", definitely not at an affordable price. Using that resolution with dual link DVI would mean dropping the frame rate below 60Hz though.]]>Jul 30th 2007 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/]]>Apr 4th 2007 5:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/and DisplayPort = DVI + HDCP . . . . . Bla bla bla . . . Why not try SH 1t or K.my.a. I saw plans
for a similar developement 10 years ago ( it's a money thing )
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Analog was good enough. Digital was more than enough. Why do we need content protection going from my computer to my monitor? Were there really devices that could capture the digital monitor signal and convert them back into raw digital video?

Of course there was! So, even before all the blu-ray/HDDVD being cracked people could still copy it. And even now, with all this content protection, you can still do it.

If I have to listen to it with my ears or see it with my eyes, it can be copied.

So just leave out the 'protection' because if people are going to pirate something, then by-god they will do it. All you are doing is making it more expensive, more bloody complicated. Stop spending money on anti-piracy technologies, because here's a little secret:

The people who are pirating your s**t? Yea, they were NEVER going to buy it in the first place. So you haven't stopped anybody from pirating. All you've done is prevent legitimate customers from buying your items because they know it won't work with the setup they have now.

So. Just. Stop.

BAH!!!]]>Apr 4th 2007 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
The teenage scene guy would NEVER spend $600-800 on Photoshop or Office 2007 Super-Ultimate Pack with Visio. That money isn't "lost to piracy", because they would have never made it in the first place! Barnes and Noble might as well accuse everyone at their store of theft when they go in the store, read some of a book, and then don't buy it. I might be interested in checking out LOTS of books for free, but the number of books I end up buying is obviously lower.

These guys are the ones who "pirate" their software, and then later go on to demand it in their everyday jobs (where it is then legitimately bought), thusly establishing defacto standards.

The money spent on activation technology is completely wasted money. COMPLETELY. It is always cracked, because no IT team or programming group can withstand the worldwide assault of determined whizkids with little to do but cracking their products. What, Bluray took maybe 6 months or less to crack, right? Dumb.

For folks like me who use SW legitimately at work, for work, "activation" is simply another useless step that makes working with the SW harder :(.

The next time I see some industry guy saying that they "lose 1 billion annually" due to SW piracy, I think I'll just find that person and punch them in the balls.
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If Penton Media uses Macs for all of their... whatever-it-is they do... Then it would be easy to have a Apple representative go down and see if they are using the current version of software. Not only that, it's a PRIME chance for them to come in and scope out what they are using and see if an upgrade would be worthwile for them.

Cheaper, and it gets you more sales. Why aren't they doing this?

I use Ubuntu. I have to use DeCSS in order to watch the DVD's that I paid my money for on my computer. This is illigal under the current laws in my country (The USA) and as such, I could be jailed for it. Such a waste of time and resources for everybody involved.

Now I can watch the blu-ray discs that I have bought on my Ubuntu computer. I don't even own a blu-ray drive--I had to download the movie off of a questionably-legal site to watch. Is that illigal? I haven't broken any encryption. I simply downloaded a movie--that I own--to watch on my computer. What's wrong with that?]]>Apr 4th 2007 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/That sir, was an excellent rant!
I couldn't agree more.
]]>Apr 4th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 5th 2007 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Oct 17th 2007 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Oct 17th 2007 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Those two things have nothing in common.
As seen with Leopard, it is possible NOW. All you would have to do is to supply the rendering part of the system information about the real screen size and adjust dpi accordingly. No fancy new display specs are needed for it, sizes could be part of monitor drivers or even specified by the user directly...]]>Jul 26th 2007 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
If so, then it's not totally useless. Single link DVI, as 99% of us have, can only support resolutions up to 1920x1200. That's fine for now, but isn't going to cut it in the future.

If nothing else, DisplayPort will cut down on confusion between dual and single link DVI. One standard instead of two.]]>Apr 4th 2007 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Jul 25th 2007 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Just like it can today.

"Two such connectors could drive an even larger display at 3840 x 2160, a resolution attained by Westinghouse's recently announced 56-inch displays."

Two of these ports can do more than that and 3840x2160 doesn't even match the IBM T221 which has existed for many years and is now out of production. The IBM T221 can be driven with single, dual, or quad single-link DVI ports by the way. There are also dual-link versions. Nothing new here.]]>Apr 4th 2007 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
for pc monitors this displayport sounds great as it will even make higher resolution monitors cheaper than ever]]>Apr 4th 2007 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
HDMI cables are like needles for turntables....marked up 1000% or more.]]>Apr 4th 2007 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/May 24th 2007 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
I can't tell you how sick of having to try twice to insert my USB plugs into their ports because the connector is symmetrical. These industrial designers should be hung by their poorly designed cables.]]>Apr 4th 2007 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Apparently this can carry audio too (optional)

"As presented at CES 2007, a DisplayPort Interoperability Guideline that recommends best practices for providing DVI and HDMI connectivity via the DisplayPort connector and simple cable adapters is nearing completion. "

And you can convert the signal to HDMI with a "simple cable adapter".
]]>Apr 4th 2007 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Which adapters can drive a 30-inch Cinema Display with a single connector? Or is it that Apple requires two connectors, but other brands can get by with one?

I thought that IBM's 9.1-megapixel display Matrox's 3840 x 2400 card could be driven only by a Matrox HR256. That card requires two connectors: http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/cadgis/products/parhelia/hr256.php ]]>Apr 4th 2007 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
The T221 has never required a Matrox card. In the early days, there were Matrox bundles that worked and support from other manufacturers was spotty. Now, many ATI and nVidia cards will drive the monitor properly. Even macs attempt to but most macs get it wrong. A mac mini will even drive a T221 to full resolution (poorly).

There is a newsgroup devoted to the T221: IBM_T2X_LCD@yahoogroups.com

Lots of information there. I have two T221s and lousy mac support for these monitors is what keeps me using Windows. There is no better monitor for image editing. The 30" monitor needs to be bumped to this resolution.]]>Apr 4th 2007 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Apple will also be able to specify what they want from manufacturers - they won't "get what Intel, ATI and nVidia give them". Double dual-link DVI cards in the Mac Pro as an example - or the Macbook display connector...

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I'm sick of HDMI cables constantly working themselves loose.]]>Apr 4th 2007 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
- Tony R.]]>Apr 4th 2007 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
Yes, I realize this. As I pointed out earlier, its illegal to do this with DVD's... The law doesn't specify DVD, or any media. They just say that any attempt to break, crack, reverse-engineer, etc. copy-protection system is illegal.

It was a rhetorical question. But thank you for being vigilant and helpful with your comment.]]>Apr 4th 2007 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
"I haven't broken any encryption." No

"I simply downloaded a movie--that I own--to watch on my computer."

No, you don't own the movie. The copyright owner owns the movie. You own the media that a copy of the movie is stored on. You have limited rights to view that copy but you do not have any right to unauthorized duplication of the copyrighted content.

"What's wrong with that?" Well, it's illegal. Whether you consider that wrong is another question.]]>Apr 4th 2007 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/I got 99 problems, but cable rape ain't one

www.monoprice.com]]>Apr 4th 2007 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/Apr 4th 2007 3:33PM