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I am sure though like samsung all CE companies are looking at dual format options.
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TWICE, 4/24/2007

In its launch, Onkyo also expanded its $1,000+ A/V receiver selection by adding two price points long absent from its Onkyo-brand models: a suggested $1,699 and $2,099. They help fill the gap between the $1,099-suggested print point and a $5,000 modular A/V receiver, said Paul Wasek, national marketing manager for Onkyo USA’s Onkyo and Integra brands. The $1,000-plus market “is certainly a growth area overall,” he said. “It is of even greater interest since the Onkyo brand hasn't addressed this price band in quite a while. We believe these two new advanced AVRs are well-positioned to make a serious impact.”

Onkyo USA’s current Integra-brand lineup, targeted to the custom-install market, already offers A/V receivers above and below $1,000. New Integra brand products will debut later in the year.

In other product developments, Onkyo USA unveiled one new Onkyo-brand DVD player and three Onkyo-brand HTiBs, said it is reevaluating its Onkyo-brand DVD strategy, and is on track to offer its first HD DVD player later this year. It will carry the Onkyo brand name.


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And, oh, my, look at that #182 for the Toshiba HD-A2; #167 for the Toshiba HD-A20; and #162 for the Toshiba HD-XA2.

Yeah, Blu-ray looks like the hot sellers. Double that for dual players. Only PS3 is keeping Blu-ray alive, and each new standalone player means as many disc sales as what, 5 PS3s?]]>May 20th 2007 2:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/
Blu-ray it is!]]>May 20th 2007 2:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/May 20th 2007 3:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/
Tomorrow I'm picking up the Toshiba HD-D2 at Costco for $249 plus I'll get 5 free discs via mail-in rebate. It's a no-brainer to grab a HD DVD player at these prices. Onkyo is no fool...why would they want to enter a market that has already seen severe price erosion on both sides? The key to margins now will be Universal players. Samsung is going there. LG is working on a 2nd generation unit. I'd love Onkyo to deliver a Uni player. I hope they add DVD-Audio and SACD support as well. People will upgrade. I'm looking at a Universal player as my next HD player after the standalone that I purchase tomorrow. ]]>May 20th 2007 6:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/
But when you get to the store, it's really hard to argue for the $799 player over the $299 one. Five hundred dollars can buy you 20 movies. The "more room for special features" argument only goes so far, and "uncompressed audio" means nothing to folks listening to HD through their TV speakers.]]>May 20th 2007 7:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/
I guess it must be nice convincing people to through away their hard earned money on the losing format with almost no CE manufactuer support and only 3 out of the 8 major studios supporting it (only on of those is an HD DVD exclusive). Are people just suppose to have player almost no variety in content? Do people buy players for content or just to have players? Blu-ray has 7 out of the 8 major studios releasing content on Blu-ray (5 of the 8 are exclusive to Blu-ray). That's not going to change.

Studios are enjoying the extra security they will be getting from BD+, AACS (cracked), and BD-ROM watermark. HD DVD only offer studios AACS which will continue to be violated as long as the Xbox 360 add-on exists. Pirates already have HD DVD titles on the streets all over the world. Blu-ray discs can't be mass produced by pirates. The studios lost around $3 billion to pirating last year. Security and the added bandwidth and space Blu-ray affords studios is why Fox and Disney are not leaving Blu-ray. Fox and Disney have already noted this (of course it won't stop HD DVD fans from believing differently).

Kevin Murphy said, "But when you get to the store, it's really hard to argue for the $799 player over the $299 one. Five hundred dollars can buy you 20 movies."

You can get a 1080P Blu-ray from Amazon for under $490 shipped. HD DVD movies are about $5 more expensive than Blu-ray movies on average. If you are buying a good deal of HD DVD movies, how long do you think it would take to make up the difference in the player prices? The real cost is in the titles...not the player.

Blu-ray is out selling HD DVD by over 500,000 discs and climbing. At this rate, the disc sales gap should be around 1.5 million by the end of this year. HD dVD is getting smashed in the rest of the world (yes...even Europe). There are less than 12,000 standalone players in Europe (HD DVD and Blu-ray combined). Now there are over 900,000 PS3s. Why would you try to deceive these good people into thinking something else? That's just shameful!]]>May 21st 2007 2:48AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/
Are you really saying that there is a DRM system that WILL NOT BE CRACKED? You're apparently not very well informed.

On a side note, did't I see somewhere that BD+ had already been cracked?]]>May 21st 2007 11:38AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/
And that's exactly why consumers should *NOT* buy Blu-Ray.

Besides, if BD is "smashing" HD DVD so badly, like you say, why did Planet Earth outsell BD?]]>May 21st 2007 12:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/May 21st 2007 5:16AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/May 21st 2007 1:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/05/20/onkyo-teeters-on-hd-dvd-decision-ponders-blu-ray-and-combo-play/May 25th 2007 9:32PM