http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/ Engadget HD Comments for HD DVD player sales reach all time high http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 11th 2007 9:50AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 11th 2007 10:22AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
That's fine... then you add in the 3.5 million PS3's already sold AND add the fact that the Sony BDP-S300 ($499) and new Panasonic player (both $499) haven't really started shipping yet...

HD-DVD has problems.

Despite their "record high attach rates", the week ending June 5th saw Blu-ray disc outselling HD-DVD 70/30. Enough said.]]>Jun 11th 2007 11:06AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
AVS forums has this breakdown:
Week ending June 3, 2007
Week: 61/39 BD/HD
Year: 67/33 BD/HD
SI: 59/41 BD/HD

]]>Jun 11th 2007 10:32PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Interesting how they try to imply that everyone who supported DVD is supporting HD-DVD, when the reality is, it's just Toshiba and Microsoft.]]>Jun 11th 2007 11:08AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 11th 2007 11:32AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Not sure if I agree with you on this one. HD DVD has a press release about how well their players were selling. So I posted their info, but added the fact that it probably doesn't matter when you consider the PS3.

Just for the record, I only own a Blu-ray player.]]>Jun 11th 2007 11:35AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Wtf are you smoking? It's Toshiba, HP, Microsoft, Intel, Kenwood, RCA, Sanyo, NEC. They are all HD DVD. They have exclusive support from Universal (plus subsidiaries), Weinstein Company and First Look Studios. The Non-exclusive HD DVD support for the player is: Hitachi, LG, Lite On, Onkyo, Meridan, Samsung, and Alpine.
The format is non-exclusively backed by Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks, Warner Bros. Pictures, Warner Music Group, New Line Cinema, HBO, Studio Canal, and Image Entertainment (including the Discovery Channel), Magnolia Pictures, Brentwood Home Video, Ryko, Koch/Goldhil Entertainment.


This war is a bunch of crap. The only 3 major studios Blu-ray has is Columbia Pictures, 20th Century Fox, and Disney. (Plus subsidiaries) I love it when people say Blu-ray has a a crap load of more studio support. Wow, 2 more major studios! That's amazing. People over-exaggerate this war on both sides. ]]>Jun 11th 2007 11:34AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Toshiba, RCA (i wonder how many of these they've actually sold, w/ the except of those who shop at walmart, does anyone buy their products anymore?) and Microsoft w/ hardware. LG is semi supportive. As far as studios Paramount, Universal, and WB...thats really it. Why would you even bother to name manufacturers/movie studios who support hd-dvd that don't even have equipment/titles out. they're not helping the struggle a bit]]>Jun 12th 2007 12:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
That really sucks that you only own a BD player. Your whole job is HD.

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BTW, Killer forgets Sony and includes Fox (which has abandoned all HD for the moment). It should say that the only majors exclusive to BD are Sony/Columbia/Tristar, Lionsgate and Disney. Fox and MGM have withdrawn for the most part.]]>Jun 11th 2007 11:58AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
If people want to see how many PS3's are being used as blu-ray players, a good start would be seeing how many blu-ray remotes for the ps3 have been sold. That'll give us a bare minimum number.

I have both, and I have been much happier with HD-DVD, if only because the PS3 is practically a space heater in how much heat it puts out. Neutrality is awesome.]]>Jun 11th 2007 1:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 11th 2007 1:21PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 11th 2007 2:25PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Later]]>Jun 11th 2007 4:10PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/

Because thats about all you can do right know with the great ahead of it's time gaming system, Beating a dead horse is more entertaining than any of the games availble right now.
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His one disc.]]>Jun 12th 2007 8:34PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 11th 2007 6:09PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
So you have a couple used HD players? But in the post above you said you only owned a BD player WTF? When did having something not equate to ownership? You really need to stand up and just get with the program. You're starting to sound like you are sony - let's stick with some true honesty - your credibility is starting to go down with me... ]]>Jun 12th 2007 4:34PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
The other ones I only had for a week or two for various reasons.

Part of the reason is because I don't have enough inputs on my matrix switch and to step up it will cost me $2k. Ohterwise I would have to switch cables every time I wanted to go between HD DVD and Blu-ray.]]>Jun 12th 2007 4:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Its funny how every blu ray supporter is a P$3 fanboy, you rarely if ever catch anyone on these forms saying they own a stand alone player. I guess I'd be a blu ray supporter too if I bought a 600.00 game machine with no games. Every P$3 owner owns 1-2 games and like 10-15 movies, thats why blu ray supporters are so passionate about the format war because first they're gamers and second they dont want their 600.00 investment to go down the drain.

Blu Ray has three exclusive studios to HD DVD's one, however Fox hasnt released anything really and is it me or does Warner Bros. seem to have a better relationship with HD DVD(Harry Potter, Batman Begins, Matrix Trilogy). Even though Blood Diamond is going to BD first a month later HD DVD gets a better version packed with way more features.

Like it or not every stand alone player sold for either format is 100% for movies, while a P$3 or Xbox 360 can go either way, thats why you dont see as many HD DVD add ons involved because Xbox owners were given an option. There are far more 360's sold than P$3's if people really wanted to get in this format thing, the 11 million 360's out there would play a major role in this. Maybe it was Sony's plan to not release good games for its consumers until blu ray wins the format war? Damn they're so smart!

If they ever decide to release a decent game or two blu ray sales will began to slope, the average Blu Ray or HD DVD is 25-35 bucks, where as to every P$3 or 360 game is 60 bucks, two games a month is about 120 bucks before taxes, which translates to about 5 movies a month, now subtract five from about the 3.2 million P$3's sold, (ARE YOU STILL WITH ME?) Multiply that by twelve, damn thats a lotta movies!

Blu Ray supporters keep thinking things are over, I know you all think the P$3 has a chance at coming back and winning the Console War too.

I say that both formats will be around for a long time, DVDs are doing just fine and there really isnt any major technical differences between the two, except that BD has larger capacity, but if you read reviews for cross platform titles HD DVD receives better reviews for audio and video quality.

I issue a challenge to you Blu Ray/P$3 fanboys, go out and find a stand alone BD player thats selling well, find a cross platform movie thats received a better review in BD format from more than one site and finally find at least three games that make a P$3 worth buying, I'M WAITING.... ]]>Jun 12th 2007 5:04PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 12th 2007 8:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
I'm yet to see anyone respond to my little challenge, I'd honestly say 98% of blu ray supporters are P$3 owners and about 65-70% of HD DVD supporters are stand alone owners, If half the Xbox 360 owners bought an HD DVD add on Blu Ray would probably die overnight lol.

I honestly dont see one winning anytime soon but I do back HD DVD, unlike the P$3 owners out there I do own more games (32 360 games to be exact) than I HD DVDs (9 total)]]>Jun 12th 2007 9:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
yeah, who knew we'd need all these hidef inputs. I current have 3 component and 2 HDMI (which I'd rather use as 3 HDMI and 2 component), but the next of either I need means I have to replace my Denon 3803. So, for me a "cheap" BD player will cost me an extra $1500 for the new receiver with the 4 HDMI & 3 component (and all the new decoders, etc).]]>Jun 12th 2007 8:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
I'm glad you feel the need to display how much money you have. I am impressed that you had $400 for a game system and between $1600-1920 to spend on games and near $300 to spend on movies.

I salute you having between 2-3000$ to spend on gaming system.

It makes sense that most blueray supporters have PS3's its a solid piece of home theatre equipment at a good price. For what it does and how good it does it there really isn't anything cheaper right now.

Please go to a gaming site if you want to sound smug and superior with your gaming collection, there are links to may of them at the bottom of the page.

I expect home theatre equipment to last for decades. It worth it to drop a bit more, like $600, for something that will. Especially if I am buying media.]]>Jun 12th 2007 9:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
In a world where people pay in the realm of 400-600 bucks for so called "smart phones" 600.00 bucks isnt much for a home entertainment system but Joe how is the P$3 solid? How it integrates with your XP or Vista powered PC (sarcasm) how it just recently became able to upscale? Or because its a Blu Ray player? I appreciate that you admire my video game collection, just to let you know I own a lot of DVDs too.

Nothing to troll about, I just get tired of blu ray supporters running their mouths about how great blu ray is because the P$3 boosted its sales but its not(excluding the higher capacity). Both formats are pretty much equal, you never addressed any of my questions either, you seemed a bit upset that I own a lot of video games.

Are you one of the P$3 owners I was talking about? Do you believe the format war is over because Sony told you it was?

]]>Jun 12th 2007 11:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/It is fairly quiet. It's still a bit to loud for my tastes but so are some stand alone cd players. I enjoy the power of my system to render *QUIET* music.

It stores all of my music and movies on the hard drive. I don't want to have to set up a home computer network to listen to my MP3's and MPG's, That is why I have a computer.

It plays almost every format of disk I can imagine. This is a plus to me vcd isn't to popular.

It doesn't have any issues with overheating. It does get noisy when it's to warm but it can live comfy on a rack.

It has an intergrated powersupply. None of my other equipment have an external powerbrick why should my media player. I was happy to get rid of the ps2 brick my system had.

I don't have hdmi so I don't know about the upscaling. I use component only.

In addition the audio and video quality are excellent. I will get testing disks soon but, I can see and hear how good it is. As a piece of gear it IS worth $600.

The bluetooth remote is excellent. No more having to place the player in view so those front leds don't bother me when I don't have to see them.

It's a Sony flagship product and it feels and acts like it.

The format war won't be over until Universal says it is. They are the only studio with movies I want and can't get.

And yes you are a troll.]]>Jun 13th 2007 5:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Storing music isnt that impressive you know the old xbox did that? As for the powerbrick its not the prettiest thing but I'll take it before a failing internal power supply causing me to send in the entire system.

As for calling the P$3 a "flagship" product I wouldn't kid myself. Sony makes good TVs but the third time was not a charm with the P$3.

Joe I have to ask were you pro blu ray before the P$3? How many video games do you own for your P$3?
I'm not comparing collections here either, just confirming a point. BTW did they ever work the kinks out of that whole BDJ thing?

I have a few Universal movies in my little HD DVD collection, I'll let you borrow some if you let me borrow Casino Royale and POTC. I'm actually looking foward to Heroes myself.

Personally I repeat I dont see either format dying anytime soon, maybe not ever, if theres room for PCs and MACs hell even Linux is still around and playing nice with M$, I'm pretty sure two optical media formats can survive. if a decent combo player comes along and both formats are around about two years from now, I'll go out and get a combo player and move the HD DVD player into one of the bedrooms.]]>Jun 14th 2007 12:27AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Jun 13th 2007 8:00PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
They struck a deal to sell a line of Sony TV's at Walmart, Target, and other discount retailers; http://news.com.com/Sony+plans+TV+line+for+Wal-Mart,+Target/2100-1041_3-6190298.html.

I'm curious, where did you get that information from? There's no mention in this article that states that Walmart is cutting out HD-DVD and sticking with only bluray.]]>Jun 14th 2007 1:58PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
The original xbox has a 5gb harddrive that is not user upgradable without hacking it. The PS3 comes with a 60 gb drive and can take a standard usb external drive to store more media. I don't know why you would even TRY to make it seem like a worthless feature.

I store my DVD's and my Cd's on it. it's very convient when I don't care much about video quality. I can also watch any web content on it, use it to check tv schedules, movie and play times from my couch.

The remote works through wall and from about more than 60' away. I can turn up the volume, listen in the next room and still change songs if I want to.

I don't worry about the internal power supply breaking in any other piece of equipment and the PS3 seems to be well designed. With all of the hate Sony gets from people like you if the units failed I'm sure I'd be forced to hear about it.

I have a bunch of PS3 games but I don't really have enough time to play them all. I spend much more time watching TV and movies , listening to music and surfing the web.

I did like Blue ray before the PS3 simply because burners existed for the PC and it holds 25 gb per disk. How ever if most of the movie studios supported HD I'd have a HD player and a data burner. As it sist right now most movies I want are for blue ray and it's a more accessable computer data format.

As for your "third times not the charm" for the PS3 how, as a piece of home entertainment gear, is it not a solid buy at $600?

Your in an a/v forum arguring aginst a piece of a/v gear based on your dislike for Sony and a bias in video gaming.

In what way is the PS3 not a good piece of home entertainment equipment? What would you recommend that I replace it, and how would it be better?]]>Jun 14th 2007 1:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Actually I still disagree with it being a solid buy since it still cant live up to its primary function. You claim to have a "bunch" of games, such as? There was never a need to add a blu ray drive to that system, besides forcing blu ray into consumers homes.


You still fall into that category of people I mentioned in my original post, people who defaulted to blu ray supporters because the P$3 didnt deliver in its primary function(gaming).

Blu Ray will fail in the end as beta did as UMD did and as did Mini Disc, UMD had a ton of support at first, especially since the PSP had a thin list of games, then little by little it died out, blu ray's run will be short lived. ]]>Jun 14th 2007 5:55PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
You are on a part of a blog where people look to buy A/V eqipment. This is the part of the web where people DO care more about HD and Blueray than games.

No, I gave you my reasons for Blueray support, data disk size and available movies along with studio support.

The PS3 does deliver gaming also. I enjoy it for all of the gaming I get to do. But this is an AV forum where people discuss AV gear for movies and music.

You are ignoring solid arguments for the PS3, and blue ray as an extension, becasue they don't fall in your narrow worldview of gaming.

You didn't suggest any device to take the ps3's place. You could have at least said TIVO, this is if you knew anything about AV gear.

My PS3's purpose it to keep me entertained. It does that in spades. I have 10 or so games, 5 or so blueray movies and a pile of cd's/mp3's. You have a party line but NOTHING constructive to argue against the PS3 or blue-ray.

As an aside. This "next gen" thing hasn't started and won't for some time. The PS2 still has the best game play value. The games look excellent and play well. The library is so big I could play nothing but ps2 games from now until I die and not get to them all. It has more AAA titles than anything else and they cost MUCH less. Being devoted to a 'next gen' system means you pretty much have to buy every piece of trash that comes out because there are so few games, much less good ones. I find the quality of current PS3 games to be good even on the worst of 'em but I still won't drop $60 on most of them. ]]>Jun 14th 2007 6:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
Ah, I could have said Tivo, apple TV(not really my thing) I'm more of a custom media center type of guy, I've got a Directivo(great) and two DirecTv brand DVRs (that I hate), my personal choice is my Linux based(Gentoo) media server set up with a samba share does 720p and 1080i with DVD scaling as well as pretty much support most file types, which is one thing these so called next gen game consoles lack support for. I archive my media as for music, movies, and pictures, you can watch a movie or play music from any room in my home without raiding my DVD closet

Out of the box equipment always lacks stuff but comes cheaper.Blu Ray has a lot of support due to the P$3 however I think it has a poor attachment rate if you run the numbers of P$3s sold and movie sales unless more stand alone units move I think the current lead will begin decline We should see a difference by the end of the year.

I'm still sticking to my guns on both formats sticking around for a long time, but what do I know? I'm from L.A. where Paris Hilton being in jail is actually considered news, but I digress.]]>Jun 15th 2007 1:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
The passion behind which format will "win" is astonishing. A movie is a movie is a movie. Both formats offer 1080p video and lossless audio. Great, bring it on!

My thoughts on Blu-Ray:

Sony has done it again. They have created another format that they "own" and that also requires a complete overhaul of the technology that creates the gazillions of little plastic frisbees, which they hope will become the "standard" (and standard for how long?). This reminds me of minidisc and betamax all over again. And why did they do this? GREED! They get money for every disc manufactured that has the "Blu-Ray" logo on it. When hardware manufactures start dictating software formats, look out! It's not something that I am comfortable with.

My thoughts on HD-DVD:

This format does not require a complete overhaul of the equipment that burns the content to the media. This makes more sense in my opinion, and is more environmentally friendly. The HD-DVD discs cannot hold as many 0's and 1's, however. But compare that to the cost of the media, and that issue is negated.

The question [really] is if your favorite movies will be available for the disc media your player supports. The disc is just a round piece of plastic filled with bits of 0's and 1's that make up pictures and sound, so I am a little bit dumbfounded that this must become such an issue.

I personally would support a player with a hefty hard disc that I could download a movie to, then back up the movie onto a plug-in USB/FireWire optical drive of your choice that supports whatever little plastic frisbee you choose that can hold the amount of data required for the backup.

That's the direction of the future, in my opinion.

This "war" is a non-starter...let's hold these manufacturers feet to the fire and make them come up with technology that REALLY makes sense. I, for one, am beginning to resent the amount of $$$ I must spend for "technology upgrades" every few years. What we should be talking about is how we, the consumers, are being milked of our hard earned cash!!! Sony and all the rest of 'em included!

In my opinion, neither the makers of HD-DVD nor Blu-Ray has got the next-gen technology correct.

TTFN]]>Jun 15th 2007 5:31PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
The PS3 was hyped just like the PS2 was when it came out, but once again sony has over promised and under delivered.

1. GRAPHICS NOT BETTER THAN 360. (Inferior Graphics card) The PS3 was supposed to blow away the 360 in terms of graphics...but almost every game that is brought out for both systems, the 360 looks better. In fact, the only game I've heard that looks better on the Ps3 is oblivion, which makes sense that it would look better on Ps3 as it the developers updated the engine (it did come out a full year after 360's).

When was the last time in console history that the game console that came out 1 year after the competition couldn't even match the competitions graphics?

2. Online is free, but it SUCKS. I'd rather pay $50 bucks a year and get online that is great than pay nothing and get nothing...do you know how many of the 15 games I have for the 360 than I can play online with all of my friends? ALL 15!

3. Sony likes to BS and hype up their products too much and make all kinds of BS press release statements..they lost business to people than have common sense.

a. I love Sony Tv's and other Sony products, but SCEA needs some major restructing For example, look at how a Sony Exec lied about Killzone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc

b. Sony promised games in 1080p on 2 tv's...LOL...what happend to that? Like most people have two 1080p tvs sitting around!

c. PS3 2 teraflops, 360 does 1 teraflop. Show me ONE game that take advantage of this? What a joke.

4. No Rumble?!! It was "Last gen technology", then why are they now trying to include it in the Ps3?

5. Price is WAY to high for a game system...especially because the games are NOT better than the 360's. For $600 AND a year later the games should blow away the 360's...but the can't even match them. I've bought almost every major console starting from the atari 2600...I earn a decent living and I'm living confortable....but $600 for a game system that hasn't trumped the competition in any way? Come on!

6. Blu-ray player - Ok it holds more data and plays movies...but SO WHAT?
a. I'd rather have a dedicated movie player...as they display movies MUCH better than consoles.
b. HD-DVD movies actually LOOK better than Blu-ray movies...
c. Blu-ray read speed is MUCH slower than DVD...causing very long load times in games.

D. Bottom line, Blue-ray does not improve games.
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Beautifully written. Fanboys in general don't understand how things work. This is why betamax failed, it's not porn, it's not because it was too ahead of it's time, it was the same thing, the PRICE. VHS was cheaper and it won. Same thing we have here with Blu-Ray.

I'm with you 100%. You said it right.]]>Jun 16th 2007 2:19AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/
WHAT THE F>>>>?????

Thats like telling the sun rised the horizon today.

Let me tell you what else reach all time high...

THE IPOD sales reach all time high

DVD PLASYERS sales reach all time high

LAPTOPS sales reach all time high

PLAYSTATION 3, WII and XBOX 360 sales reach all time high

HELL, even GAMECUBE sales reach all time high

MY BOOK sales reach all time high

HYBRID CARS sales reach all time high

NOT OPTIC MOUSE sales reach all time high

VHS PLAYERS sales reach all time high

IN A WORD all products sold today REACH ALL TIME HIGH

what the hell the write was thinking when write this????
]]>Jun 18th 2007 7:13AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-player-sales-reach-all-time-high/Follow this link and read the paragraph under the remote control picture. http://reviews.cnet.com/game-accesso...g=nefdprod.rev CNET uses PS3s to test many of the HDTVs they review.]]>Sep 7th 2007 4:01AM