Remastered RoboCop finally coming to Blu-ray
By Darren Murph 
posted Sep 14th 2007 12:38AM
posted Sep 14th 2007 12:38AM
[Via HighDefDigest]
posted Sep 14th 2007 12:38AM
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Well I guess Blu-Ray supporters get what they wanted. Ancient MPEG2 encoding, absolutely no features and "cheap" price of $40. But hey, you know it's the feature film that's important, and with MPEG2 you'll defintely need that high-bit rate? LOL!
Talk about suckers. Btw, when's that Die Hard PG13? Seems that a lot of movies coming out on Blu-Ray are PG13 flavor.. I guess it goes well with the whole Smurf fairytale land I guess LOL
When will this be available overseas on HD DVD?
So. 25GB MPEG2, huh. Isn't this tantamount to throwing one's hands into the air and admitting that Blu-ray is going to endure a poor, poor holiday season? This is precisely my #1 reason why Blu-ray shouldn't exist. I don't like having to reference resources on the net to determine whether or not my next HD movie purchase is going to look like CRAP.
because just like you, your "web resources" are wrong about half the time to. This edition is coded in AVC/MPEG4
Take that HD-DVD!
Wow. You guys are almost being too fair. I was wrong--Blu-Ray needs you to be biased in their favor. Just announce the release next time and keep quiet with the details. You're making me feel sorry for them.
Sony sure is having a lot of problems making the 50 gig Blu-Ray Disc's that they have to keep releasing the 25 gig Movie disc's. I hear Sony has a 60% Failure rate and everyone else is around 90% Failure rate Pressing 50 Gig Disc's. That they have to reduce the Disc size down to 45 gigs to get better results. True, Not True, to me it's sounding truer to me all the more. Put it this way. Why Release yet another MPEG2 movie on a 25 gig Disc? Why with all the so called Far more Studio Support there isn't far greater amount of movies on Blu-Ray? What does Paramount Really know? Was it just a pay off, or did they see the writing on the wall?
It would be OK if they actually used one of the other 2 compression formats on the 25 Gig Disc's. After all there's no Extra content once again on a Blu-Ray movie! MPEG2 isn't going to cut it on a 25 gig Disc. It'll look GREAT as long as there's a lot of room to work with, which means a 50 gig Disc. Again, I don't see how this is going to FIX the problem. Blu-Ray is just NOT READY. The Very High Production Failure rates of the 50 Gig Disc's. The Format is still not finished. The whole BD-R Disc B.S. with Limitation on Creating them for Home users that are worse then DVD. The Double Copy Protection and Region Encoding still. I can't believe anyone actually LIKES this format other then SONY themselves. It's so end user Unfriendly it's crazy. I can go on, but it's a waste of time to fanboys. HD DVD has some minor Limitation, but it's a FINISHED FORMAT and Pressing Disc's isn't a problem. With NO Region Encoding, and Being finalized since DAY 1, HD DVD doesn't have all these Blu-Ray problems and Restrictions. I really can't see why ANYONE would like Blu-Ray? Generally, it sounded promising, in Reality, it's a complete disaster.
Ya, I'd like to get a HD DVD copy myself. Have to keep a look out.
They're probably saving the VC-1 encoding of Robocop for when they're no longer obliged to Sony. Makes sense. Not like they could have shoehorned 30GB of data onto a 25GB layer.
Anytime I hear people boasting about Blu-Ray's superiority to HD-DVD because of it's greater storage capacity, I think of the planet Terminus from Asimov's "Foundation" series. You stick a bunch of genuises on a planet with minimal resources and watch them invent new technologies and processes to make the most out of what they have, and when the rest of the galaxy comes a-knockin' it's like a brigade of musketteers versus a squad armed with FNP-90's. Sometimes the best innovations come when an inventor has to make the most out of what he/she has on hand. I think Joystiq hit it right on the nose when they pointed out that the PS3's superior blu-ray technology hasn't yet helped it yield any games that are worth a damn, and games for the PS2 and xbox360 which rely on previous generation DVD tech continue to outdue theirs in both critical and financial success.
Unrated cut? It's about 30 seconds of extra gore [from past updates]
However, DVDTown.coom reported a few days ago that the Blu-ray will NOT be the unrated cut, but the theatrical version. See link...
http://www.dvdtown.com/news/mgm-tries-robocop-on-blu-ray-again/4739
Highdefdigest says the Blu-ray disc is remastered from an unrated edition, so it's not explicitly stating that it will be the unrated cut. Confusing for sure... wait for more updates
it clearly states in the article MPEG-4/AVC, lack of features sucks but its not the first time. its seems many studios opt for no extras if they aren't in HD
@Cash when did this become about the PS3. this is about a movie not computer games.
@JB Dragon. if that were true, which is highly unlikely, then sony wouldnt have already perfected the 4 layer blu-ray which has 100GB space and be conducting successfull lab tests on the 200GB version. Blu-Ray is ready and it is a far superior format than HD-DVD. with Blu-Ray you can write and read to the same disk at the same time. not only that but you can partition a disk so it can have read only data but leave space on the disk for content packs and game saves or to use it to transport large files.
High Digest's video specs say 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 not MPEG2.
Is there a way to confirm who is actually correct?
I think engadget is referring to the original version that reviewers got back in 2006. That version clearly says 1080p/MPEG-2.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/robocop.html
Mpeg2 is still good, it just takes up more file space (less compression). and correct me if i'm wrong, doesn't HD-DVD still use this "ancient mpeg2 encoding" authoring for some of their movies too?
Blu-ray supporters tout it to be superior beyond it's storage capacity (which is still growing). The Lens Aperture is larger, and it has a higher max bitrate for video. There are always pro's n con's to each side, there's a lack of interactivity and PiP (for now), but all the movies I own, and the ones that are MPEG2, i've been very happy with.
Blu-ray.com also states that the codec is AVC.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=507
While I am not a fan of double-dipping, I think Sony (and all the other studios) need to start using AVC uniformly on the Blu-ray platform. That means no MPEG-2 and no VC-1. Give us high bitrate AVC content, which thanks to the maximum transfer/throughput rate of Blu-ray, won't be matched by HD DVD.
We all need to keep some perspective. Lots of the original DVD releases had shoddy transfers. Especially the Schwarzenegger films. Both "Predator" and "Conan" had bad transfers when they were originally released on DVD.
I'm tired of hearing about the interactivity of HD DVD and Blu-ray 1.1 and 2.0 profiles. Who uses this crap? Its like the multi-camera angle gimmick that only one segment of the home video industry ever used with DVD. I'm only interested in the highest video and audio quality possible, not stupid downloadable ringtones and boring PiP commentaries.
You obviously have never seen the extras on HD-DVD. I never look at the extras on DVDs--but it's a whole other story for HDi extras. If this "gimmick" doesn't matter, then why is BDA risking compatibility to enable these "gimmicks" for Blu-Ray?
Also, AVC is not superior to VC-1. They are comparable codecs. Both are better than MPEG 2.
http://video.ldc.lu.se/pict/WM9V-MP4AVC-MP2V_comparison-Goldman.pdf
"I'm tired of hearing about the interactivity of HD DVD and Blu-ray 1.1 and 2.0 profiles. Who uses this crap? Its like the multi-camera angle gimmick that only one segment of the home video industry ever used with DVD. I'm only interested in the highest video and audio quality possible, not stupid downloadable ringtones and boring PiP commentaries."
Amen to that. Sick of hearing a bunch of idiots whining about the lack of or praising the high heavens for the presence of extra features like pip, interactive $hit, etc. What kind of person has so little life that they can spend hours watching a movie again just to hear some borderline retarded actors and directors ramble on in a commentary track? Give me good audio and video and cut all that other retarded $hit out.
I'd have to say that the HD-DVD cheerleaders are harping on history with respect to MPEG-2. While I had not seen any serious flaws in any of the MPEG-2 titles that I've watched so far, they are the older titles.
Most of the movies I watched were in AVC or VC1, particularly the newer ones. I check the CODEC out of curiousity and it's not to confirm or deny anything because CODEC-induced problems just don't seem to show up.