http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/ Engadget HD Comments for Blu-ray, HD DVD players to appear in panel discussion http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
FUD?]]>Sep 19th 2007 12:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
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Don't laugh, this could really happen.]]>Sep 19th 2007 1:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/Sep 19th 2007 3:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/Sep 19th 2007 1:26PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/"How come electronic companies that are hundreds of times richer than Hollywood majors do the bidding of the latter ? Why don't they just buy them and tell them to shut the fuck up with all this DRM shit ?"]]>Sep 19th 2007 1:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/Sep 21st 2007 1:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
My guess? More rhetoric. ]]>Sep 19th 2007 2:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
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That's not specific to the HD DVD/BD players anymore though. You can't just ask that for TVs, receivers, DVD players, etc anymore - you need more information unfortunately. Things are better, but more complex than they used to be.
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I'm the consumer, I make smart buys. I wont buy single format HiDef players. Simple as that.

I've had tens of people ask me and I tell them that they have to wait. Its just not worth buying one over the other. ]]>Sep 19th 2007 4:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
That's with these two formats are doing -- completely underwhelming the public. I will stick with my Oppo upscaling DVD player that I got about six months ago. Quality looks fine to me -- heck, even my old non-progressive scan DVD player looked pretty good on my 42" Panasonic Plasma HDTV!]]>Sep 19th 2007 5:00PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
How much did you pay for the player? At the current HD DVD prices (a couple of weeks ago you could get one for $200 with 8 free movies), it's a no brainer to buy one as an upconverter instead of an Oppo. And while upscaling looks ok, it really doesn't compare to HD (either format).

"heck, even my old non-progressive scan DVD player looked pretty good on my 42" Panasonic Plasma HDTV!"

Then you probably need a pair of glasses...]]>Sep 19th 2007 6:34PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
I think in the end, price is really key to entering high def for some people at this point.]]>Sep 20th 2007 4:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/Sep 19th 2007 7:09PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/If you buy a cheap HD DVD player you cant loose, even if BR wins long term, it is still one of the best upscaling DVD players around and it's cheap.I think we all have several DVD players, it's not much money to invest while the war rages on, it could be years before there is a clear winner."

The argument that I and many others have is not the initial cost of the players but the commitment to the discs themselves.

OK I break down and I choose a $200 CDN HDDVD. I then run out and buy 10 discs at $29.95CDN only to discover some months later that HDDVD has lost the war and I along with millions of others are left holding a pile of worthless discs. I refuse to enter this arena until a agreed format has been decided upon. I work to hard for my dough to piss it against the wall.]]>Sep 19th 2007 8:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
Why? If HD DVD stops producing disks, do the disks you already own stop playing? No, they don't. Lots of people still use VHS and Laserdisk. Heck, my parents still have an 8-Track player! They all play the media just fine.

And if you're really that worried, buy the HD DVD player ($200-$250) and rent HD DVDs instead of buying them. Your current DVD collection will look better and you can still watch HD DVDs.

But again, guess what happens if everyone buys HD DVD players because they're cheap? You'll guarantee that HD DVD will "win" the war.]]>Sep 19th 2007 10:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
NO! YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE DISCS - that's what RENTALS are for [$17 a month], from either Netflix or Blockbuster online, rent all the HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs you can watch for a low monthly fee.]]>Sep 20th 2007 10:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/
I think a 3 disc Netflix subscription would make far more sense than buying most movies on HD DVD, regular DVD or Blu Ray. Let's be honest, most people watch a DVD that they purchase no more than 2 or 3 times. Some titles like Star Wars or LoTR might make sense to purchase, but most titles make more sense as rentals.

Given all that, I would get an HD DVD player in lieu of an upconverting regular DVD player. As for Blu Ray, I cannot see purchasing a stand alone player. If you are going to purchase a PS3 anyway, then add Blu Ray to your preferences for Netflix.

Unfortunately with the PS3 you need to get a preamp or receiver that will decode high quality, multi-channel surround sound over HDMI. Not many high end preamps support HDMI 1.3 yet. This was one reason why I bought a Toshiba HD-A1 with six channel analog audio outputs last year. The price then was $400. At today's ~$200 prices, you don't have too much to lose even if Blu Ray does win the format war.]]>Sep 20th 2007 9:41AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/19/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players-to-appear-in-panel-discussion/HD is going to say look at my cheap prices.
Both will say no one look at HD-VMD and hope that it goes away. ]]>Sep 20th 2007 3:25AM