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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I find it out that Q4 would be so critical when interest in High Def Disc interest in so low, from the NPD survey <br><br><a href="http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/09/23/npd-group-reports-on-hd-disc-format-adoption/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/09/23/npd-group-reports-on-hd-disc-format-adoption/</a><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 2:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm more interested in which disc format will replace recordable DVDs in home computers.  That's a bigger factor to me than HD movie players.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[naman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 2:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[NOPE on the importance of the 4th quarter '07.<br><br>The next 3-4 months will not determine much more than we know now, that with both HD formats combined the total percentage of disc sales is only 1% to 2%, with standard DVD accounting for about 94% of all sales, and VHS, streaming/downloads/, PSP etc, accounting for the rest.<br><br>I don't think this war will be settled for years to come. Sony had better hope Warner doesn't decide to go "HD DVD exclusive" at some point.<br><br>On the hardware front, others have mentioned here recently that right now you can get a great "upconverted DVD" player [with HD DVD playback too!] for only $199 on sale :-))<br><br>Blu-ray players aren't low enough yet. And the packaged discs are STILL TOO HIGH PRICED for either format, to entice those happy with buying the cheaper standard DVDs [that usually have more bonus content anyway].]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph R]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 5:11PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA["that with both HD formats combined the total percentage of disc sales is only 1% to 2%"  This is an excellent point, we are really talking about small numbers here.  Even if Blu-ray is selling two-thirds of the discs, that number is still insignificant compared to standard dvd.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[gregorykingston]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 6:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[So this isn't critical for either camp, but for whom?  Retailers?  Advertisers?<br><br>We've been putting up with this 720p,1080i,1080p for a few years now, why not a few years of HD/BR?<br><br>I don't think the real deal will be decided until the masses start buying those above mentioned digital tv's to view digital content OTA.  Until then, a good old fashioned price war is to the benefit of everyone who isn't an early adopter with plenty of ca$h to burn.<br><br>If BR doesn't lower prices soon though, they're in danger to go the way of laserdisks, just as hd dvd needs to either go all in or nothing with the combo discs that are keeping them from being the low price point leader.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kumar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 3:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[This fight is stupid. Neither side will back down and that just means that any large scale adoption of a new format is still a long ways off.  Personally, I think this fight is no where near over (unless one side is running out of money).<br><br>Still if the Audio wars SACD or DVD-Audio were any indication, most consumers care more about convenience than quality which is why MP3 won the day. Could the same thing happen here?  Will those pushing for Vidoe-On-Demand catch up to the point where people could care less about going out and "buying" a disc?<br><br>Perhaps this fight will only produce losers.<br><br>- Roger]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[roger_huston]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 3:17PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[Engadget is grasping for straws. I rather quiet than to post comments from an Org. that have relevance. Anyone can make statements and provide "stats" to support it. I t is entirely up to US to decide  this "war".<br><br>I guess this the Paris/Britney post of the day. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Derrick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 3:22PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[>no relevance]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Derrick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 3:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I have a interesting take on things a little.<br><br>I think that neither format will win as they expected.But one format will emerge as the victor.<br><br>That winner will end up playing the "Apple" role and the DVD market will be the "Windows" role.Only difference being "Apple" in the case would be more successful.<br><br>HD isn't a issue for everyone so we can't expect it to take such a leap in market share that DVD did.The differences between DVD and HD(HD-DVD/Blu-Ray) aren't vast enough to warrant a switch over that would shut DVD out of the market.<br><br>I see the HD winner being sort of a niche to people who prefer the higher end of things leaving dvd to the average joe.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[anthony]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 4:09PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[couldn't they just make a thumb-drive/flash-drive based HD movie device? the size of a cellphone, since there isn't any drive of any kind and just sell you the device with a jump drive so that you could either download it online or at a store with the new USB standard transfering a movie would take long at all. I'm just wondering if i'm wrong to think that it's a possibilty or if a storage device could pull of the visual quality of a disk?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Doc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 4:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[why don`t we see the numbers for the formats in europe or altriala or japan? or india? blu-ray is dominating all but india with margins of 85% more]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[julian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 6:05PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'd really like to see some fresh figures.  I know US is leaning a little toward Blu-Ray, and HD-DVD is basically gasping in Japan but last I heard, HD-DVD has a good lead in Europe, and that's a very good sized market, possibly as many people as the US and Japan combined.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[JeffDM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 7:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[Since I live in the US...i could care less who is winning in Japan or Austrilia.  The only thing about those markets I care about is buying Fantastic Four and other blue ray exclusives on HD DVD on Amazon.de or amazon.uk etc]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 10:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think both formats will stick around for awhile. I don't see either giving up anytime soon.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 25th 2007 2:28AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[Seeing how the largest TV in my house and the first "HD" TV I purchased is now essentially worthless in the eyes of the market given it's lack of HDMI, I am done being an early adopter. Even the offbrand bargain DVD players upconvert these days, but only if you have an HDMI connection. My set puts out a beautiful 1080i 65" picture, but what good does it do me when the only 1080i content available to me comes from 10 cable channels (one of which being PBS... yeah, Dora the Explorer in HiDef... exciting) and my 360? Both types of HiDef players have beautiful upscaling abilities, but what incentive is there for me to purchase one when it will be artificially crippled, locking DVD content at 480p and 1080p HiDef content (which costs twice as much as standard DVD's btw) at 1080i? <br><br>In theory, I prefer HD-DVD to BD, but I am not going to be purchasing either until the time comes to replace this set. Seeing how my last big screen tv went 15 years before conking out, physical media will most likely have gone the way of the dodo by then anyway and it won't matter. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 7:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[Blu-ray is leading HD DVD in Europe, though it is closer to an even split than elsewhere - but adoption of *both* formats there is very, very weak.  So it isn't really like the fight is over.<br><br>BD has about 2/3 of the market in the US, and it is utterly dominating in Japan.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MegaZone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 11:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I forgot add that I'm not ruling out this quarter as a bellwether.  I think the turning point for DVD was when there was a $200 player, the Apex.  Even if it was a bad one, it seemed to be at that point that people really got interested in DVD.  I think a $200 HD-DVD player will be available this fall, so there's a chance that it might turn the tide in terms of HD disc acceptance.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[JeffDM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 7:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[JeffDM- There ALREADY is a sub $200 hd-dvd player. People will not be interested in HD content in mass until the format war is nearly over.<br><br>The BDA is in the format war for the long haul. With the PS3 they not only gained a player but a computer data format. There have been millions of bluray disks shipped. Along with alliances from computer makers such as Apple they are dug in to compete and profit in a variety of ways. So even if HD-DVD starts to take the market bluray won't have to crumble. So even if consumers start flocking to HD-DVD this year it doesn't mean BD will be dead by next.<br><br>The longer the war goes on the less consumers will want to do with it.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 9:35PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[There doesn't have to be an intrest in HD just knowlege it is there.  If you DVD player goes and you have to buy a new one...do you buy the no name $30 player or the Toshiba $200 player with 7 free movies and it upconverts your existing library.<br><br>I don't own a HDTV yet..so no HD DVD player either...but if I had to buy a new player now...I would get the free movies and upconverting player just to have...cause I know I am just a few weeks or months from getting an HDTV.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 24th 2007 10:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[Or they just download HD to their cable/satellite-based DVR.<br><br>Right now I'm happy to download SD movies/TV shows from Amazon's Unbox service to my Tivo - love the $0.99 movie rentals.<br><br>No reason the above can't happen with HD content.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 25th 2007 4:30PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Q4 of 2007 critical in format war]]></title><link>http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://hd.engadget.com/2007/09/24/q4-of-2007-critical-in-format-war/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't think it's confusion stopping people buying HD discs at all, it's price, and price alone.<br> Why pay a shit load to buy a BR player when an up converted DVD player does a bloody good job, J6P just can not justify the amount of coin required. However, $200 and less players are a whole different ball game, J6P can justify that amount of coin, then the market will get some traction.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[nigel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 26th 2007 3:52AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>