http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/ Engadget HD Comments for Warner: Terminator 3 on Blu-ray to include IME, but not Profile 1.1 http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Oct 22nd 2007 2:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
As rightly said, it's not just a matter of no profile 1.1 or profile 2.0 players.

What studio is going to go to the expense of adding the full features & take the risk of playback problems with the profile 1.0 kit out there right now (ie everything Blu-ray)?]]>Oct 22nd 2007 2:26PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Why would studios bother spending the money to add proper interactive content?

They barely spend the time and money to get director commentaries. I hope that the drive for pip in the future doesn't eliminate the audio only commentary track. I do not need to see them, I need to see the scene they are talking about.

Besides that feature, interactive content is going to make this generation of movies very dated. Games and interactive content cost million of dollars to develop content of quality. I just don't see studios spending the cash to make the game that increases the cost per disk and cuts into lucrative video game rights.

Can studios do a better job than imdb and wikipedia?

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you can always go back later once they get their act together when profile 101.2.4 comes out]]>Oct 22nd 2007 4:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
What features have been delivered on hd-dvd interactive content?

What studios have used this feature to deliver content out side of the normal commentary and lame interactive game?]]>Oct 22nd 2007 5:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
I'll give you just a couple of examples:

Warners' 300 HD DVD - Full PIP commentary that basically overlays the actual HD encode with a PIP of the blue screen/green screen version of the film. Its quite interesting to see the difference between the finished product and what it looked like when it was filmed. PIP commentaries are perfect for this sort of thing.

Paramount/Dreamworks' Transformers HD DVD - You can download little "widgets" from the online servers that overlay the actual HD encode with a few different things. One such feature shows which robots are in a scene, and has extra pop up information about the scene (think pop-up video). However, they promise more of these "widgets" through the rest of the year.

Other titles have scene sharing, generating playlists and sharing online with ratings, online stores, etc...

BD can't really do this since internet connectivity isn't standard.]]>Oct 22nd 2007 6:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Oct 22nd 2007 5:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
BD would be nothing without the PS3. The only reason why BD is doing well is because everyone who has a PS3 has a BD player. You could argue that bundling the BD drive with the PS3 saved BD, but on the other hand, it kinda killed the PS3 (as in, made it too expensive and less attractive to the avg consumer).

But what happens when PS3 continues to fail to live up to its potential and hype? What happens when game developers stop bothering to develop for the cell because its such a pain? I can easily see BD becoming one of those formats like UMD that doesn't necessarily fail, it just sticks around, but only has support from the die-hards who stick with it.

BD-J is a pain, BTW]]>Oct 22nd 2007 6:52PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/"blu ray kicking HD DVDs butt all over the world"

Come on Ken, if you think a 60% share, of 1% of discs sales is butt kicking market dominance then you are just , yet another, deluded blu zealot.
When the blu market is 20% you may have a point, at this stage, it is just flame driven, fanboy , paranoia.

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I'm certain that you are wrong about this not being able to be done on BD. While internet is not required for BD it is also not required for HD-DVD. Sure the players must support internet but the disks do not require it. Most of the features have to reside on the disk.

Most people hay have internet of some sort. Many of them have broadband. Some of them have HD-TV. Of that subset how many people will want to be on the phone with tech support trying to figure out why there disk player isn't properly acquiring a DHCP lease?

To think of it this way the XBOX360 only has around 50% of its users online, and the XBOX's best feature is online.


Game developers that can not adapt to the Cell processor will die. The future of computing is in multi-core processing. The Cell was the first to market but Intel,AMD and IBM have hit the limits of traditional processing are all have converged on Cell style processors as the way forward. Developers ALWAYS complain, like on the switch from CISC to RISC processors. Developers who never made the switch from CISC to RISC never made the move from the SNES to gamecube or xbox 360.

I think in terms of bluray the PS3 did it's job. It got the market lead, established the technology and will continue to last until the cheaper BD players make it to market. I feel the PS3 will take more of the PSP track. It will have a slow start by costing to much, but make developers quite a bit of cash and have a steady sell rate. For being a 'joke' that is out of the market Sony sold 20+ million of them, only when compared to Nintendo 40-50 million are those bad numbers.


BD is really in pretty solid shape. ]]>Oct 22nd 2007 10:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
If game developers that don't want to adapt to the cell are going to die, then I'm in big trouble.]]>Oct 22nd 2007 11:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
I will tell you how my next door neighbor felt when he called me back in May to help him set up his new Toshiba. He had just stopped and purchased it and The Matrix Trilogy and wanted to watch it that night. Guess what! It did not work! Toshiba said it was bad disks and to return them. After two more sets my neighbor took the player back and decided to wait on moving to high-def media. Five months later he is still waiting. He loves the way my system looks with both Blu-ray and HD DVD but refuses to take the plunge again because of the bad taste left by Toshiba.

Blu-ray has had a few problems but HD DVD has had many problems along the way also.]]>Oct 23rd 2007 2:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Oct 23rd 2007 12:56AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/
Why would anyone want this Movie on Blu-Ray over the far better long ago released HD DVD version? I just don't get it.

]]>Oct 23rd 2007 2:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Oct 23rd 2007 1:41PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Oct 23rd 2007 5:56PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Oct 23rd 2007 8:28AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/http://hd.engadget.com/2007/10/22/warner-terminator-3-on-blu-ray-to-include-ime-but-not-profile/Well no developer ever wants to learn something new but seriously if your company can not adapt to a new architecture I hope that you are only making casual games the cleanly fall under the DX framework with very little 3d optimization. The structure of modern gpus is very similar to the new multicore chips. The biggest problem is optimizing your algorithms to be run in such small chunks and an auto scheduler for spu's.


Also add content for HD-DVD and Bluray has to be made with the assumption that there will be no internet connection. The bulk of the features need to be on the disk.

It's not really a big deal of the port is included or not. If the online features become compelling enough then people will buy players with networking.


JBDragon- I'd love to live in your land where HD-DVD's don't have any drm. Fairy tales are nice. I bet there is a great and scary ogre there also. ]]>Oct 23rd 2007 9:57PM