http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/ Engadget Comments for More analyst conjecture: format war will remain stalemated http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 5th 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
Sub $200 then $150 and soon enough $100 HD DVD players from China are going to render even these stalemate estimates wrong.

That and all the HD DVD studios moving to 'Twin' disc production (which will see movie disc prices fall).

Meanwhile the kids game console format will sell a few more game consoles and get some additional movie disc sales out of it.
Big deal.

HD DVD is closing in on the much larger adult a/v market.
Blu-ray is not.

Blu-ray is the PS3 kid's game console format.
It's just PSP & UMD all over again - with a little PC burner activity added into the mix.]]>Dec 5th 2007 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/

What a Wii considered?......Toddler?
]]>Dec 5th 2007 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/BR is ahead now, but IMO, Toshiba has this war one as soon as the Chinese made HD DVD players hit the market in volume.
DVD players will become a thing of the past when HD DVD players are consistently under $100 and have international market saturation, and that scenario should only be a matter of months. Realistically this war could and should be over by next year.
Also, personally i hope fony loose because I have a problem with a manufacturer trying to force me to pay inflated prices for an inferior product by withholding content.




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It's time that organizations like Engadget, Gizmodo, AVS Forum, etc, call for the format war to end. It does no one any good.]]>Dec 5th 2007 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 6th 2007 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
I lol'd...sorry man, you just lost all credibility.]]>Dec 5th 2007 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 5th 2007 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
Sad for some of us to understand, but its true...ask your parents]]>Dec 5th 2007 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 5th 2007 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
Well, the waiting game is getting tiring, and the prices are dropping low enough to make the cost issue less convincing. They both look good, they both sound good, they both have good exclusives... and the average consumer is still happy with dvd i guess?

There was a post a while ago from someone who felt both formats would fail, that downloads would take over. When told that xbox Live movies were "720p, and 5-8 gigs per movie.. looked great to me"

News flash. Lots of Standard def dvds are that big. Hell, dual layers are 8 gigs! Ever tried to rip a dual layer onto a single layer, strip all special features and still retain 100% quality? Few movies allow this. So, imagine the compression on downloads!! Doesnt this defeat the purpose of "superior quality" high def formats?]]>Dec 6th 2007 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 6th 2007 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 6th 2007 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 6th 2007 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
I own a PS3 and 360.

I can honestly say that I worry every time I power on my 360.

My inner monologue goes something like this-------Will this be the day that my 360 craps out on me? Oh good it still works!
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Newsflash, they are all cheap Chinese players with different brand stickers on them.

It should be once the profitable cheap chinese players hit the street and right now profitable is still $200-300.]]>Dec 6th 2007 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/Dec 6th 2007 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
There's a big problem though. You don't "win" a war if regular/standard DVD has 95% of home video sales, while both HD formats disc sales are less than 5% combined!

Even if we could have perhaps one HD disc format in use right now (take your pick), the majority of discs sold would still be for standard DVDs, rather than an HD version.

So, as another speculated above, both of the HD formats may never become the "mainstream", and could remain a niche format by a limited number of users, like the LaserDisc, which never had more than 4 to 5 million owners worldwide (from it's existence between 1978 to 2000).]]>Dec 6th 2007 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/05/more-analyst-conjecture-format-war-will-remain-stalemated/
Pending the holiday sales of multimedia discs Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD, major player Warner Brothers will make their decision on the format with the most market push. However, this will not be a practical approach as the Playstation 3 (the cheapest blu-ray player on the market) is currently picking up in sales due to their price drop and release of a cheaper version of the console. The Playstation 3 has had a slow start, possible has stronger movie publisher support, and has outdone Microsofts XBox360 sales take of during its first year or sales.

Once the final numbers are in Warner Brothers can kick this war into the final throws. If it selects Blu-ray, 70% of the market share will be in Blu-ray's hands. If it goes with HD-DVD then it will split the two DVD formats once again extending this fight into the next year.

Although the blu-ray discs cost more, and are more to produce. What do we really want? Most of the money lies in other distribution venues such as Netflix and online HD media.

So everyone get out there and buy some Blu-ray movies to drive the numbers this holiday season. This will surely finalize the deal with Warner Bros.

-Adam Stafford
http://zune.adamentity.com]]>Dec 10th 2007 4:33PM