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Blu Ray will someday have my support, but until then Yay Universal/Paramount and Dreamworks. Thanks for staying affordable! ]]>Feb 8th 2008 4:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 8:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 11:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:21PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
The decision is a simple one. Switch to the better selling format, kill the format war, and spur on widespread adoption of next-gen players. There are many households that have not bought into either camp, and will not until there is a clear winner. Thats a lot of money just waiting for such a move before being deposited into their bank account.]]>Jan 4th 2008 10:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 5th 2008 8:54AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 11:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:07PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
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http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warner:_No_Payoff_for_Move_to_Blu-ray/1327]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:09PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
For those afraid of clicking on the link.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:21PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
I'm not seeing as much of the HD-DVD fanboy haterade that I usually see. Good to see.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:33PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 10:24PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 5th 2008 12:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:09PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:29PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 10:56PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:10PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 5th 2008 12:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/


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Right, but it took 8 years after the release of DVD for that to happen. Blu-ray isnt even 2 years old yet.

The whole strategy about Blu-ray was for studios & CEs to regain profits that were lost precisely because DVDs were getting "too" cheap for them. Toshiba's push for HD-DVD that spurred $199 and cheaper players forced Blu-ray to push prices down. There is no pressure on blu-ray to follow suit now because HD-DVD is dead man walking now. The current 1.0 profile players will be discontinued and new 1.1/2.0 players will be released but don't expect a similar mad rush to $300 any longer. And expect an end to BOGOs. ]]>Jan 6th 2008 9:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
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What he MEANS:
As soon as Blu-ray is ready for prime time.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
I don't even want to think about how much I've spent on HD DVD. I don't accept warner's decision. They need to resend it and go the other way. BD is good for data not for movies. If BD wins you'll never see small indie films put out on HD because of the fact that BD requires AACS which costs a TON of money for a content provider and doesn't even work (ie has been easily hacked). HD DVD doesn't require this and you can burn short HD DVDs onto regular DVD5's. It's a way to squish the small guy so that only big studios can put out content. If the bottom line is that BD wins.. I'm going to just start buying big hard drives.

Notice that warner is saying that they're not necessarily going to stop making HD DVDs.. at least not yet.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:29PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/It's called BD 1.1 spec, junior. Look into it.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/What badweasel is really saying is that he rejects reality and substitutes his own. If you need counseling for the massive losses you've taken acquiring your HD DVD content collection and hardware then I know a good vet. ]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:38PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/HD-DVD uses AACS also. There are no CSS HD-DVD's. Small studios COULD chose to encode with no DRM.]]>Jan 4th 2008 10:12PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
1.1 is still not the final spec. BD is still in development.

True that HD DVD and BD both use AACS but with BD is it required for replication and with HD DVD it is not.]]>Jan 4th 2008 10:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
Warner is saying *specifically* and *unequivocally* that they are going to stop making HD-DVD's on May 31, 2008, as per their contractual requirements with the DVD consortium.

After that, it is all Blu-Ray.
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Besides, HD isn't amazing anymore, it is just status quo and DVDs look like crap.]]>Jan 5th 2008 12:18PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
Warner should buy up or exchange every last HD DVD disc they sold. The BDA should buy up all the HD DVD players, or offer a large discount on new blus.

With all this money flying around and consumers left with maybe $1000 of suddenly obsolete discs and players, it is going to leave a VERY bad taste in people's mouths. People will rightly feel used.

Assuming that there were 1 million $300 HD players and another 3 million $20 movies sold, that's only $360 million to buy back or replace (at retail valuations).

Still leaving Warner with $140 million. Someone should sue for fraud and deception.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:40PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/What part of Warner stating that they never took a moneyhat bribe didn't you understand? As for those weasels at Paramount, well, they're currently eating crow right about now. ]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:41PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 10:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
But you miss the point: it is in Warner's interest, Sony's interest, everyones interest who hopes to make money from the HD conversion for them to make folks whole and happy. Consumers will be twice as wary at every step if they know that the companies will screw them at the drop of a hat. Or a checkbook.]]>Jan 4th 2008 10:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
You should have bougth a few actions then...

Otherwise, you are in no position to ask for something back from them, they DID NOT force you to go to the HD-DVD camp (if they did, and use a weapon like a knife or gun, then you you are better off calling the police), they don't owe you anything...]]>Jan 12th 2008 7:34PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
Yes I'm just grumpy about it and in my anger am possibly not making any sense.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/No, Warner is saying that HD DVD is a failure and has never been able to surpass the sales of Blu-ray movies for the past 52 weeks. There's really not much more to read into it than that. You see, companies like money and the HD DVD sales just weren't brining any in. Accept reality, weasel, and we just might spare putting you down.]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/
Still, all that aside, I'm left wondering what the Microsoft factor will be on the HD DVD player? Will they walk away from HD on their current and next GEN game consoles? Are they ready to go completely hard drive based for their HiDef video and gaming offerings? I would think that they would see the loss of Warner to the HD DVD format as a mighty blow to Xbox 360 Console because the PS3 still offers a one-system solution and even if MS is ready for a hard drive based entertainment world, the world may not be so quick to embrace, nor the movie studios who will moan and whine about piracy.
]]>Jan 5th 2008 6:16AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Jan 4th 2008 9:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/04/the-real-reason-why-warner-went-blu/Underdeveloped? You mean just like all of your appendages? ]]>Jan 4th 2008 9:45PM