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"Warner's move leaves only Paramount and Universal squarely in the HD DVD camp. Sony, Fox, Disney and Lionsgate all back Blu-ray. Warner sister company New Line confirmed it will shift allegiance to Blu-ray only as well."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978461.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1]]>Jan 5th 2008 3:03AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 3:04AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 3:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Of course none of this is good news for HD DVD, I'm not spinning anything.

Warner chose the bigger pay-off, that's all, sh*t happens.

Sadly the consumer will end up (unless huge changes take place in the Blu-ray approach) getting shafted.

If the consumer keeps on doing what they have been doing (going for HD TV DVR set-top boxes, upscaling regular DVD and downloads) then this could well be a very phyrric victory for Blu-ray.]]>Jan 5th 2008 7:15AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
And while I'm sad to see HD DVD on the cusp of death, lets realize that it isn't over (NL could go red giving them a player seller in LotR). Hell they could tempt Lucas into releasing Star Wars exclusively on HD DVD (yes I know Fox is blue, but I believe Lucas has control of all Star Wars releases). Of course HD DVD will most likely wither and die, but as long as Sony doesn't try to f over consumers who cares? Of course Sony may take it as an opportunity to push umd (requiring bundling or dual format players or some such nonsense). Or just an opportunity to vent their frustrations about not having a successful format until now, not to mention the luke warm response to the ps3.]]>Jan 5th 2008 4:08AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 4:14AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 4:28AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 6:47AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
It could have gone the other way, a inside source has said a studio that he cannot name right now would not go to HD-DVD with Warner, which Warner would not go HD-DVD if they didn't. Sounds like the 11th hour deals for Blu-ray fell through and Warner was looking to help move the war to a single format and made a quick and swift move after the deal with HD-DVD fell apart.]]>Jan 5th 2008 8:05AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Sounds like the 11th hour deals for Blu-ray fell through and Warner was looking to help move the war to a single format and made a quick and swift move after the deal with HD-DVD fell apart.
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That's true.
Up until this week it was HD DVD that had it all in the bag
(in fact the agreements were made months ago, it was just about timing the announcement - that;'s what Toshiba are alluding to when they talk of contracts).]]>Jan 5th 2008 8:31AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 9:40AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
From what I'm reading, Sony spent $1B ($500M/ea) so that they wouldn't lose the format war.]]>Jan 5th 2008 10:04AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 10:01AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Bottom line is Blu Ray is bad news for the consumer, but the fact that it came in a Playstation unknowing Joes took it in. Its funny how many Playstation owners have technical backgrounds?

Okay lets see BR has a higher capacity than HD DVD, GREAT! Now lets do some simple equations, DRM= Buggy, Region Coding= Locked, hardware with spreadsheet standards= Misleading, yeah you can get a cheap BR deck for under 300.00usd but it has less support features that a 195.00 HD DVD deck, BDJ= unproven and underdeveloped hence Warner never releasing The Matrix or Batman Begins, now that this has happened with Warner, you can expect to see those hardware prices stay high for a while.

As for why people think HD DVD= M$ is still beyond me. I guess because Michael Bay said so? Or because the Playstation ACTUALLY did = Blu Ray so gamers thought M$= Xbox 360 which would HAVE to= HD DVD? Lets clear the air for a second M$ backed or maybe even still backs HD DVD (unless they announce support for Blu Ray and a 360 BR add on @ CES?) but understand this people if HD DVD= M$ you'd have an Xbox 360 with built in HD DVD two years ago. Yeah HD DVD uses HDi which = M$ but fanboys seem to be like drunken soccer fans they just want to fight and dont understand why.

I support HD DVD but will admit it bought Paramount and Dreamworks. Warner stating "it wasnt a bidding war" is a pretty tall tale. This being the same company that was going to produce hybrid combo disc, which "delayed til 08". Yeah if they didnt take some form of a payoff (money, stocks, incentives, hell even big screen TVs) then my friends they're the most ethical company in the history of mankind and God bless them!

If HD DVD some how holds Universal which depends on their financial arrangements as well as Paramount/Dreamworks, maybe they can pull a rabbit out of the hat? Hey maybe I'll be President of the United States? The only possible comeback is something like Disney leaving BR which is like seeing Elvis Presley and Tupac Shakur having breakfast at Dennys on a Sunday morning.

Yeah I'm let down, I feel the consumer (mainly me) got screwed, but this is business and I can understand that and accept that, but I refuse to be ignorant to the facts. I close by saying this, you might not see 500 million dollars in Sony's annual reports they're too smart for that, but you might want to check the BDA's AMEX black card bill.

]]>Jan 5th 2008 10:57AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 11:32AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 12:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Sir you are not superior to the rest of us. I'm sorry you feel that you were one of the rare few who could grasp the truth and everyone else is stupid.

Bringing up the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the HD format war. The same people that wanted that war are the supposed (j6p) that would buy $100 HD-DVD players.

They would have. If Toshiba made it's case to them. Toshiba didn't market to them.

Sony priced the ps3 at $600 mother fucking dollars. This is NOT the price range for some red neck yocal. This is the price range for an early adopter.

The point is to sell the product to consumers without technical backgrounds. I'm sure the scientists at Toshiba and Sony both think there products are the best.

Every Playstation product has come with a new format to put games on. The PS3 was no exception. There were 2 choices at the time BD and HD-DVD. Sony went with a format that was getting support from multiple places in it's company. It's not rocket science; it's basic business.

You are not the only person on earth who "get's it." You don't see that Toshiba didn't get enough support from the consumer or business.]]>Jan 5th 2008 2:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Seriously, you must have a lot of free time on your hands...]]>Jan 5th 2008 8:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Warner Bros. went Blu-ray exclusive because it was the smart thing to do - plain and simple.]]>Jan 5th 2008 11:14AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
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All of the reasons still hold. They never had studio support to begin with.


dmeir- Chill out. There will be no job losses over this except a few executives. MS never put much effort forth for HD-DVD or it would be doing better. The people who developed HD-DVD are sceintist that will continue working on optical format research. The engineers also make dvd players and will be shuffeled to a new project. The marketing people may be screwed. The factory workers in China will simply start making toasters, dvd players, or whatever.

Business invest billions of dollars in projects that may not suceed each year. Toshiba and MS are both big enough to write off HD-DVD losses in a single year and still be profitable.

Sony is the one that had to win. Toshiba will blow this off.]]>Jan 5th 2008 2:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978461.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1

At this point with all of the momentum going Blu you can be quite confident this is true :)]]>Jan 5th 2008 11:15AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
How much time have you served in the armed forces? You're idiot of you think this socalled war is a war and people arent making money off it or being manipulated to thinking its right and yes idiotic people in this very country which I HAVE served celebrate this war as some macho cowboy fest. Talk to me when you have people you've served alongside come back with holes in them or twenty year olds whom are disabled vets now because we've got Hillbilly Jim as a President. How many more children are we going to blow up this year? No my friend you're the idiot.


Just to keep things relevant with the actual topic HD DVD, Blu Ray, there I said it]]>Jan 5th 2008 11:49AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Just as a quick sanity test, what was your MOS? If this takes too long, I'm going to assume you had to google the answer....]]>Jan 5th 2008 12:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 12:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
But I guess if I was Warner I would have to accept a 500 million dollar pay off as well. To bad Toshiba couldn't afford to spend that much. I wonder how Sony was able to afford that as PS3 sales have caused their financial statements not to look so hot. Oh wait the article says it was a payoff from the BDA. Wonder where they got the money? Well do you really think those Blu-ray players actually cost twice as much as an hd-dvd player to make?

And now because of a couple of tools we have to accept the "superior" more expensive, DRM filled twice as much (because we don't trust our consumers) Blu-ray format. ]]>Jan 5th 2008 11:49AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Of course not, but neither is HD DVD. Otherwise that format would have won long ago. Here's the scoop chief: Consumers don't vote as a monolithic block. And if we count sales as votes, well Blu has been ahead all year...attach rates be damned. You voted too buddy, with that PS3 of yours. Perhaps you should have adopted Truth Teller's mania of death before Blu.

Paramount took money; Warner took money. The only difference is that Warner's money was icing for a strategic cake. The consumer hadn't chosen by now and so they made the choice in their best interests.

The rest of your rant is debatable opinion, but the consumer had a choice and didn't make it. Most, in fact, were waiting until the choice was made for them.]]>Jan 5th 2008 12:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/since time warner is engadgets grandparents, DOES THIS MEAN THAT ENGADGET WILL GO BLU RAY ONLY TOO??!!!!????????!!?!?!]]>Jan 5th 2008 11:55AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 12:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 12:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 12:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
"reference quality audio like Dolby Digital Plus"? Give me a break. Lossless is lossless, no matter how DD+ is spun.

"From what I've heard and read on the web, boo-ray actually only has regular Dolby Digital and not the "plus" variety and that's why it doesn't have reference quality audio like HD DVD does on Transformers and Shrek the Third." Other than Paramount blu-rays, DD+ and regular DD has always been the same, encoded at 1.5Mbps or 640kbps.

"be open minded like me and support HD DVD, thanks!" LMAO ya real open minded.]]>Jan 5th 2008 12:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 12:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
It's common knowledge that Warner Bros. DID NOT take any payoff from Sony in order to make the switch to Blu-ray exclusive. It just took some logical thinking.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warner:_No_Payoff_for_Move_to_Blu-ray/1327

Blu-ray is the superior format, with superior studio backing, and superior sales.
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In addition I would like to close with the fact that if this had been a TRUE format war like VHS vs Betamax and studios didn't pick sides then there would be a completely different outcome. Shame on every studio for thinking they know better than the consumer.]]>Jan 5th 2008 4:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 4:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/

The only incentive for finishing the spec was hddvd and well, we see where that is now.]]>Jan 5th 2008 5:00PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/
Rob]]>Jan 5th 2008 4:52PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 5th 2008 10:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/05/is-new-line-going-blu-ray-exclusive-too/Jan 11th 2008 1:56AM