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"Let HD-DVD Die"
http://www.petitiononline.com/HDVDeath/petition.html

Current score: Red leads Blu by 2640 to 187. ]]>Jan 10th 2008 3:23AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
A lot of petition signers say things like "Go Blu!" and "Yay, no more format war! Blu FTW!"

Check it out!]]>Jan 10th 2008 8:34PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 8:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
I own an HD DVD player as well and I when it comes to the overall consumer base, I agree that it is a more affordable and overall a more consumer-friendly format. I don't see a BD adoption doing anything other than delaying HDM to the consumer until such time as BD player prices are more at the levels of HD DVD. People will instead settle for upscaling DVD players.

That said, this on-line petition is ridiculous. Even petitions that are done with truly serious intent are given no credibility because of the ridiculous and frivolous petitions out there.

Warner got *something* out of this deal. It might not have been straight dollars or something that can immediately show up on their books, but I'm convinced that they most definitely got paid off in some fashion while hiding under the guise of "customer preference". This is no better or worse that the Paramount or Disney bribes, of course; but when you have back-room deals like that going on, things like on-line petitions are given as much consideration as an ant walking up the side of the Empire State building at the 40th floor.

It's all about money, not merit. And when it comes to money, BD sells more. That's all there is to it. I would love to see BD and HD DVD equally as they both have their pluses and minuses. I've heard that BD players *can* read HD DVDs with some firmware changes. I think that dual-players would not be as difficult as it seems. But on-line petitions don't make money for the studios, so they're going to give it the same amount of credibility -- zero.]]>Jan 10th 2008 10:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
Yeah, Warner got something, like more guaranteed revenue sooner by picking the format that was already making them more money.

Also (unrelated), I like how the petition says that it's trying to show that the "consumer hasn't 'clearly' chosen Blu-Ray" or some such (emphasis mine). I find that funny, since media sales have consistently been in favor of Blu-Ray in basically every market where this war existed for all of last year. I guess they forgot that in business, consumers' money talks, not digital "signatures" on a web page. (which I guess you said near the end of your comment)]]>Jan 10th 2008 6:12PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
We'll never know now, but only if all studios were format-neutral would we truly know which format was "customer choice".]]>Jan 11th 2008 12:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 10:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 10:55PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
all retailers put items that they get credit for on sale. if toshiba gives them a $100 credit they will put that item on sale for $100 less... thats all]]>Jan 10th 2008 11:16AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 11:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 10th 2008 1:35AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
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1. TRUTH TELLER
2. NFINITY
3. BILL GATES]]>Jan 9th 2008 9:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
I can feel the tears :)]]>Jan 9th 2008 9:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:20PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:56PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:21PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:21PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:27PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 9:40PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
That and on-line petition are worthless and rarely work, there are much better things to do with your time... like watching paint dry.]]>Jan 9th 2008 9:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 10:52PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
Now what don't you go crawl back under the rock you came from. That is unless you have something intelligent and worthwhile to say, which you don't since you are just a blind sheep.]]>Jan 9th 2008 11:08PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 10th 2008 2:03AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 10:18PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
i hate blu ray nothing about blu ray is better then hd-dvd... and do not say space, becuz space has no matter in movie quality... and if you say it does sony has their d**k up ur a**...

how much space does a two hour movie need...

the best choice for customers in hd-dvd...

and i have a ps3 as well, just for blu ray... so i get to see which one is actually better... and clearly its hd-dvd...]]>Jan 9th 2008 10:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
Ask Paramount after not being able to add lossless audio to TRANSFORMERS.]]>Jan 9th 2008 10:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Are you sure about that???
There's a whole world of people willing to prove you wrong on that one. The more space you have on the media (disc) the less compression you apply, the better the video quality. And, the more additional content you can add. Remember, there's always room for improvement. In everything.]]>Jan 9th 2008 10:53PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 11:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/This fact, coupled with the 25GB per layer allow a movie encode with a DRASTICALLY HIGHER bitrate than HD-DVD. Bitrate of compressed video is DIRECTLY connected to quality of the picture.
Not to mention that HD-DVD runs on an old Intel CELERON processor! HA that's pathetic! Blu-ray is slightly more expensive (and only for a short time) because it's players use quality DSP's and other components! As for the PS3, I'll take a CELL chip anyday over a CEL-ERON. lol]]>Jan 10th 2008 6:03AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
So yes, the bitrates are higher, but they have to be that much higher to keep up.

Just makes me wonder sometimes how a non finished format won this war. ]]>Jan 10th 2008 9:29AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
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so what were u just saying... internet updates...]]>Jan 9th 2008 10:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
So glad I sat on the fence.]]>Jan 9th 2008 10:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
LOL............


from the way NFINITY AND TRUTH TELLER was talkin u would think they worked for toshiba.were are they

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http://www.petitiononline.com/HDVDeath/petition.html ]]>Jan 9th 2008 10:52PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 10:54PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 10:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 11:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 11:03PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/Jan 9th 2008 11:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/09/petition-to-keep-hd-dvd-alive-appears-online/
from USA Today Interview with Bill Gates:

"Q: Warner's announcement backing Blu-ray high-definition DVDs suggests the death of the HD DVD format, which Microsoft has supported. What's your reaction?

A: There has been a lot of back and forth. The announcement before that was Paramount putting exclusive support behind HD DVD. HD DVD did well over the holidays. The other trend we're seeing is that direct download over broadband — I think the greatest example of that is XBox Live — (is) becoming an important choice. Over time, that will be the dominant way that people get their movies."

Then a quote from a Microsoft exec at nextgen.biz:

"The fate of HD-DVD is not critical to the success of the Xbox 360, according to senior Microsoft officials, who have noted that the company would consider supporting rival technology Blu-ray if it were victorious in the high-definition format war."
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