http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/ Engadget HD Comments for Samsung BD-UP5000 gets unboxed http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/just plugged it in ... able to download update no problem. Gotta figure out what's coming out of the audio stream.... it plays Resident Evil series no problems. Plays all current WEB enabled content from HD DVD rather smoothly.
Gotta say, though, kinda sad, but HDDVD disc menus and content are fantastic... BD seems to be in the dark ages comparatively.... Sad HDDVD seems to be headed down the tubes.
anybody have a sight that describes what's coming out of the audio stream on BDUP5000 if selecting "Bitstream" or "PCM"?
No matter what I select my Receiver has ALWAYS reported DTS. (PCM, DD EX 5.1; DTS ES Discrete - DD, DTS....doesn't matter... always reports DTS... don't know if BD discs aren't flagged properly [HD-DVD discs don't seem to have this problem on Sammy] or if its the "Bitstream Reencode"....
Manual goes out of its way to not say what audio codecs are playing when....]]>Jan 26th 2008 4:48PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 10:07AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 10:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
and contrary to what eric said, NOT everyone who has this player loves it. check avsforums to read about all the returns and cancelled orders.]]>Jan 15th 2008 5:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 10:10AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
If they can fix the HD-audio-codecs, then this will be the player to own.]]>Jan 15th 2008 11:55AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 10:53AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 10:59AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 11:30AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 11:51AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 3:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 5:21PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 11:35AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 11:38AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 11:41AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 6:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 6:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
If I'm not mistaken I believe the next gen Samsung dualie (5500) will be $599.

So although inconvenient, it's still cheaper to buy seperate BD and HD DVD players for now. ]]>Jan 15th 2008 11:40AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
Actually, I snagged mine during a lucky break: $750 from CC, then 10% off by coupon, $675 final price (plus tax). :¬)]]>Jan 15th 2008 3:20PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 11:49AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
If you gents have the Star Trek HD DVD set lying around the office, give it a whirl on my behalf. I've only managed to get disc 1 to work once in this player. No luck with the other discs so far. I'm curious if this is an isolated incident or not.

Otherwise, I've been having pretty good luck so far.

Still hoping for a firmware update that will allow me to fully bitstream some of the lossless codecs to my Denon 4308 CI, rather than just the front L&R channels.]]>Jan 15th 2008 2:29PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 3:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
Pros:
Dual format works fine - blu ray's boot like blu ray's, HDDVDs are a little quicker here than in A3, A35 etc.
HDMI with HDCP seems intact, no crossover issues.
clean look, good remote.

Cons:
Still costs more than an HDDVD and Blu separately.
Runs hot, like all these players.

These are the things that really stick with me today. MSRP was $999 the week it came out, then sammy dropped to $799, where we are currently.
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When I play SD DVDs on the BD-UP5000 and press the Stop key, the main wallpaper screen is full of jaggies. There's even a problem when pressing the Info key on SD DVDs. All internally generated letters from the Info or Setup functions looked out of sync. Similar to a RPTV convergence problem.

The SD DVD HQV benchmark shows some inconsistencies as well. Specifically on the Test Film Mode (race track) the 3-2 detection is kinda slow. However, the BD HQV Benchmark disc looks perfect.

If you turn off and on the unit or insert a BD, everything goes back to normal.]]>Jan 15th 2008 5:12PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
Btw, Samsung remotes suck!]]>Jan 15th 2008 5:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
Oh BTW, they also have plans for another combo player, please keep up.

I like this picture http://www.engadgethd.com/photos/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed-2/584892/

I would like to know why it won't support +r/rw discs.]]>Jan 15th 2008 6:10PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 6:53PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/Jan 15th 2008 7:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
eh jackass, you think so? from a business perspective, HD-DVD is a dead end. Warner realized this and Samsung will go back to supporting only Blu-ray like they did for the past years. Then again, listen to Toshiba and invest in them. Their stock will sky rocket this year.]]>Jan 16th 2008 12:13AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
I work as a Home Theater product expert for one of Canada's largest electronics retailers, and when i found out about this player i was totally stoked. I've got an older HK AVR245, so i use 8ch analog for the audio and a 60inch Sony SXRD (the 2020) for the video. I love this player. Honestly! In my personal opinion, the Pioneer and Sony BD units we have just don't stack up, and the LG combo is a sad bit of garbage (both of them...). I remember in August seeing info for this at a vendor fair and i've kinda been stuck on it ever since. Ok, so it has a few firmware issues, we've known about them since the HD Guru article. But seriously... do i want an LG combo p.o.s.? Do i want to buy two units when i have limited space left in my HT setup or make people confused when they come over and try to use my setup? Do i want to stand by and wait for the BD-UP5500 to ever come out and watch as my friends buy shiny new HD media in front of me because i didn't even have a player yet? ...No.

So what there are a few firmware bugs. Ok so my free copy of Smokin' Aces (HD-DVD) didn't read in it But everything else i've bought for it has or it would get returned the next day at work. I just bought my AVR in June, and i'm not replacing it anytime soon. I can wait for a firmware update. I'm content. Anyone who knows me would tell you that for me to be content with something is a rare find. I mean, i have a Monster Power backbone consisting of an AVS2000 and an HTS5100, trust me picky is my middle name ("fanboy" is my prefix).

...all tho i might pick up a 5500 down the road when my HD collection gets big enough that i want to start watching the discs on my bedroom system.]]>Jan 16th 2008 4:35AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
This way lets say that for the sake of argument it is all over and its going to be a slow death for HD-DVD... it will be a MUCH quicker transition for HD-DVD owners to adopt Blu-ray and still keep the HD-DVD content the bought with their other player. Its a GREAT move for companies like LG and Samsung.

...And yes, i figure your just making your comments to "stir the pot". Specifically with the "Btw, Samsung remotes suck!" comment.]]>Jan 16th 2008 4:47AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
Firmware downloaded, processed and update completed!

It took a good 20 minutes for mine to download, then another 5 minutes for it to process. I've got 10MB service via Charter Cable (speed tests show an average download capacity of 8MB).

Good news! 3:10 to Yuma is now playing (or rather the trailer for RAMBO and Lords of War). No time to step through the movie, but this is highly encouraging!

Just put Resident Evil Extinction, and I am now watching the Blu-ray trailer!!!

I've already read that this '1.0' is not perfect, but it is a step in the right direction.

Now I've got one BIG question for Samsung. ...'v1.0'?!?! are you FRAKKING KIDDING ME?!!

Come on Samsung, you don't release 'alpha' versions to the general populace! That is just asking for a backlash!

Mr. Engadget with the review product? Wakey wakey! Time to get to work!!! :D

P.S. Resident Evil 3 is now playing!!! Looking forward to reports on Sunshine and other titles that were not playing.]]>Jan 17th 2008 7:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
Perhaps enough of a reason to get a dual-format player even if you don't care about HD DVD.]]>Jan 17th 2008 12:25PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/15/samsung-bd-up5000-gets-unboxed/
thnks]]>Jan 26th 2008 12:41AM