With all those bargains a lot more people will own an HD DVD player. Which should mean more HD DVD movies will be sold. But will that make Warner purple again, I don't think so. Does HD DVD really need Warners support? maybe not..
So what? It's pathetic that people like you keep talking about a "fire sale". If HD DVD is to survive, which is highly unlikely at this point, the only way to do that is do get the players into as many hands as possible. If that means selling the players at a loss, well, so be it. At least they'll still be getting SOMETHING instead of letting the hardware languish in a warehouse.
How hypocritical that the PS3 was never considered to be a "fire sale" when Sony's been losing hundreds of dollars on every console sold. But now that HD DVD is apparently doing the same thing ... oh, well! It's just a desperate "fire sale"!
Obviously we know which format you bought into, lol.
I'm quite over myself thank you very much. Toshiba is clearing out it's inventories, one only hopes that lots of these are going to current HD DVD owners stocking up on players rather than new adopters that don't know the format's on it's last legs.
I bought mine solely because of the $98 fire sale. The only reason why I don't have BD is because there are no profile 2.0 players that come close to that price, and I'm not so desperate for a PS2/PS3 because I'm a PC gamer far more than I am a console gamer.
So, if you think that I have some kind of loyalty to HD DVD, you're wrong, not that I expect you to believe that with your Blu-colored glasses. If anything, I'm sickened by the elitist attitudes of fanbois on both sides -- yes, that includes Truth Teller, and JimC is rapidly climbing up that list. I've never seen such a group of poor winners as I have the BD crowd -- if BD does something, it's awesome; if HD DVD does the same thing, it's a fire sale and a sign of desperation. How pathetic.
So, you go ahead believing what you want. Any favoritism that you think I have towards HD DVD is actually animosity that have towards BD is because of its fanboi supporters, not its technology.
The really sad part is how you people have gotten so emotional over the differences of the encoding mechanism of a 12cm piece of plastic.
Come off it. This is a firesale. Amazon are clearing their stocks while they have still have a chance to get rid of them. Once the few remaining studios go Blu (or neutral which means the same thing), Amazon wouldn't be able to shift these things if they gave them things away.
Oh well, the silver lining for HD DVD owners is that titles are going to be substantially marked down. May it's worth buying them up just to be able to secure some HD content and rip them to a computer, 360 or PS3 for continued viewing.
If that's so, it's only because of the pedantic, childish "nyah nyah nyah" bickering back and forth between the fanbois that the rest of us have had to put up with -- and STILL have to put up with. Now, however, it's reverted from "Mine's better than yours!"/"No, Mine is better than yours!" to "Nyah, nyah, nyah! You don't have no ice cream!"
You and rest of the fanbois have been like the children in the restaurant who won't behave themselves. The rest of us who don't care either way have had to deal with it. So if I seem bitter or emotional you can thank yourself and the rest of the children.
If you think I'm a fanboi because of my increasing rhetoric, I'm sorry, I got into the HD war late (August of 2007) only after which I found out there were fanbois. It was the minding numbingly ignorant faith based evangelistic crap of Truth Teller and nFinity that got me so quick to stomp on ignorant post that defy reason and logic. It is this devotional attitude these people have that wrecks their reasoning ability. They have made a religion out of HDDVD and I'm sick of it. If Warner had gone HDDVD and taken Fox with them, I would acknowledge that blu-ray might not survive....but that didn't happen and redheads like Truth Teller which touted such arrogance and spouted off like they knew what was up being "insiders" just infuriated me. I don't mind blatant admiration of ones own favorite piece of hardware but to blatantly lie and spin and obfuscate the truth just won't fly. If a lie or spin or falsehood or conflation occurs, I will be there to challenge the person on their statements, Truth Teller and nFinity however deserve no respect as they cannot tell the truth nor reflect reality, so I have no patience with them....
Jim, they're trolls. That's what they do. Just let them rant, or as we say "Don't feed the trolls". No one here gives them any credibility anyway.
You apparently don't remember the likes of h4ldol who was the troll for the BD camp. The reason you don't see him anymore is because he got downright insulting to the point that even the BD supporters were telling him to knock it off. TT and nFinity are just the annoying flies that won't go away in comparison.
We're cool. I am a reasonable person and love spirited debate but when anyone starts going off into fantasy land, I lose patience. When people make clearly uninformed comments, it is hard to play the catchup game and educate them, I don't have time, so I often go for the quick "cut their legs out from under them" approach and move on. But with Truth Teller, I'm not going to let him off the hook. I will challenge him at every turn. As for my other recent comments, it is just frustration out the sheer unwillingness of some to realize that we need to move on and get blu-ray poised to take on DVD in order for us to have a single successful format.
This business of using HDDVD vs Blu-ray as a price reducer needs to stop. Toshiba needs to stop HDDVD and produce a Blu-ray player to help drive down prices and bring people out of SD DVD market. I don't fear HDDVD coming back, I fear online HD being flaunted as the HD outlet. I can't stand Time Warner Cable as it is, I don't want them to be my only gateway to HD content.
JimC I think Toshiba will produce a Blu Ray player before too long. This may well be why it's a good idea to avail of any HD DVD bargains since at least one firm (Toshiba) and possibly more are going to produce hybrid players.
I doubt that hybrid players will even cost much more. They do now simply because they're pitched at format hedgers. Once the war is over, they'll have to compete on price with other blu ray players and their price is going to drop considerably.
@JimC: "...but that didn't happen and redheads like Truth Teller which touted such arrogance and spouted off like they knew what was up being "insiders" just infuriated me."
This is way off topic, but where the hell do you get off using "redhead" as a slur? If you'd said "chink" or "raghead" you'd probably get your comment rated down, or banned from the site.
And if you think it's different, you're deluded. People like me no more chose to be redheads than Al Sharpton chose to be black. And people of my haircolor get treated worse, by all reports, in the UK than minorities do here in the US. And because they're white folks, after all, that's OK, right? I mean, they're not really a minority, right?
And wait before you reply about my angry tone...my getting angry at that does not, in fact, support a common stereotype about redheads. :->
(why yes, in fact, I do realize you meant that to mean "red" as in "HD DVD supporter"...I just need to remind people to be careful with their words once in a while. :-) have a nice weekend.
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With all those bargains a lot more people will own an HD DVD player. Which should mean more HD DVD movies will be sold. But will that make Warner purple again, I don't think so. Does HD DVD really need Warners support? maybe not..
Looking more and more like a fire-sale everyday.
So what? It's pathetic that people like you keep talking about a "fire sale". If HD DVD is to survive, which is highly unlikely at this point, the only way to do that is do get the players into as many hands as possible. If that means selling the players at a loss, well, so be it. At least they'll still be getting SOMETHING instead of letting the hardware languish in a warehouse.
How hypocritical that the PS3 was never considered to be a "fire sale" when Sony's been losing hundreds of dollars on every console sold. But now that HD DVD is apparently doing the same thing ... oh, well! It's just a desperate "fire sale"!
Get over yourself.
Obviously we know which format you bought into, lol.
I'm quite over myself thank you very much. Toshiba is clearing out it's inventories, one only hopes that lots of these are going to current HD DVD owners stocking up on players rather than new adopters that don't know the format's on it's last legs.
Relax, in a year it'll all be over.
I bought mine solely because of the $98 fire sale. The only reason why I don't have BD is because there are no profile 2.0 players that come close to that price, and I'm not so desperate for a PS2/PS3 because I'm a PC gamer far more than I am a console gamer.
So, if you think that I have some kind of loyalty to HD DVD, you're wrong, not that I expect you to believe that with your Blu-colored glasses. If anything, I'm sickened by the elitist attitudes of fanbois on both sides -- yes, that includes Truth Teller, and JimC is rapidly climbing up that list. I've never seen such a group of poor winners as I have the BD crowd -- if BD does something, it's awesome; if HD DVD does the same thing, it's a fire sale and a sign of desperation. How pathetic.
So, you go ahead believing what you want. Any favoritism that you think I have towards HD DVD is actually animosity that have towards BD is because of its fanboi supporters, not its technology.
The really sad part is how you people have gotten so emotional over the differences of the encoding mechanism of a 12cm piece of plastic.
John, if you read the above four posts, I'll think you'll find that it's you that's got emotional over this.
Enjoy your movies!
Come off it. This is a firesale. Amazon are clearing their stocks while they have still have a chance to get rid of them. Once the few remaining studios go Blu (or neutral which means the same thing), Amazon wouldn't be able to shift these things if they gave them things away.
Oh well, the silver lining for HD DVD owners is that titles are going to be substantially marked down. May it's worth buying them up just to be able to secure some HD content and rip them to a computer, 360 or PS3 for continued viewing.
If that's so, it's only because of the pedantic, childish "nyah nyah nyah" bickering back and forth between the fanbois that the rest of us have had to put up with -- and STILL have to put up with. Now, however, it's reverted from "Mine's better than yours!"/"No, Mine is better than yours!" to "Nyah, nyah, nyah! You don't have no ice cream!"
You and rest of the fanbois have been like the children in the restaurant who won't behave themselves. The rest of us who don't care either way have had to deal with it. So if I seem bitter or emotional you can thank yourself and the rest of the children.
Okay.
@John B
If you think I'm a fanboi because of my increasing rhetoric, I'm sorry, I got into the HD war late (August of 2007) only after which I found out there were fanbois. It was the minding numbingly ignorant faith based evangelistic crap of Truth Teller and nFinity that got me so quick to stomp on ignorant post that defy reason and logic. It is this devotional attitude these people have that wrecks their reasoning ability. They have made a religion out of HDDVD and I'm sick of it. If Warner had gone HDDVD and taken Fox with them, I would acknowledge that blu-ray might not survive....but that didn't happen and redheads like Truth Teller which touted such arrogance and spouted off like they knew what was up being "insiders" just infuriated me. I don't mind blatant admiration of ones own favorite piece of hardware but to blatantly lie and spin and obfuscate the truth just won't fly. If a lie or spin or falsehood or conflation occurs, I will be there to challenge the person on their statements, Truth Teller and nFinity however deserve no respect as they cannot tell the truth nor reflect reality, so I have no patience with them....
Jim, they're trolls. That's what they do. Just let them rant, or as we say "Don't feed the trolls". No one here gives them any credibility anyway.
You apparently don't remember the likes of h4ldol who was the troll for the BD camp. The reason you don't see him anymore is because he got downright insulting to the point that even the BD supporters were telling him to knock it off. TT and nFinity are just the annoying flies that won't go away in comparison.
So, we're cool then? :)
@John B
We're cool. I am a reasonable person and love spirited debate but when anyone starts going off into fantasy land, I lose patience. When people make clearly uninformed comments, it is hard to play the catchup game and educate them, I don't have time, so I often go for the quick "cut their legs out from under them" approach and move on. But with Truth Teller, I'm not going to let him off the hook. I will challenge him at every turn. As for my other recent comments, it is just frustration out the sheer unwillingness of some to realize that we need to move on and get blu-ray poised to take on DVD in order for us to have a single successful format.
This business of using HDDVD vs Blu-ray as a price reducer needs to stop. Toshiba needs to stop HDDVD and produce a Blu-ray player to help drive down prices and bring people out of SD DVD market. I don't fear HDDVD coming back, I fear online HD being flaunted as the HD outlet. I can't stand Time Warner Cable as it is, I don't want them to be my only gateway to HD content.
JimC I think Toshiba will produce a Blu Ray player before too long. This may well be why it's a good idea to avail of any HD DVD bargains since at least one firm (Toshiba) and possibly more are going to produce hybrid players.
I doubt that hybrid players will even cost much more. They do now simply because they're pitched at format hedgers. Once the war is over, they'll have to compete on price with other blu ray players and their price is going to drop considerably.
@JimC: "...but that didn't happen and redheads like Truth Teller which touted such arrogance and spouted off like they knew what was up being "insiders" just infuriated me."
This is way off topic, but where the hell do you get off using "redhead" as a slur? If you'd said "chink" or "raghead" you'd probably get your comment rated down, or banned from the site.
And if you think it's different, you're deluded. People like me no more chose to be redheads than Al Sharpton chose to be black. And people of my haircolor get treated worse, by all reports, in the UK than minorities do here in the US. And because they're white folks, after all, that's OK, right? I mean, they're not really a minority, right?
And wait before you reply about my angry tone...my getting angry at that does not, in fact, support a common stereotype about redheads. :->
(why yes, in fact, I do realize you meant that to mean "red" as in "HD DVD supporter"...I just need to remind people to be careful with their words once in a while. :-) have a nice weekend.
Um ... "redhead" is not a slur in the U.S.