http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/ Engadget HD Comments for Panasonic's DMP-BD50 Blu-ray player gets spec'd, "released" in Europe http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
(is it so shocking or are we not meant to be interested in such things?)]]>Feb 12th 2008 6:19PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 6:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
$600 my ass.. this one will be probably close to $700 MSRP and I like how they are trying to make it sound fancy with "Deep Color compatibility" crap when all they are trying to say is HDMI 1.3.

Drop this sucker to $250 and I'm gonna buy it.]]>Feb 12th 2008 7:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 7:48PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
So what you're saying is: You don't know? Wow, thanks for chiming in. Always very helpful.]]>Feb 12th 2008 8:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Might have to move my PS3 outta the way.]]>Feb 12th 2008 6:27PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
It might not output TrueHD & DTS-MA over 5.1 analog.]]>Feb 12th 2008 6:29PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 6:30PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 6:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 7:39PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 6:58PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 7:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 1:17AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Prolly wont be in the US yet by the time I'll buy my player though hehe.

And lol again at Lie Teller who was hoping to be able to bash on the price early ;)]]>Feb 12th 2008 6:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 7:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 11:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 7:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
(maybe they ought to price sensibly in the first place, then people might not complain too much).

What are the bets it's set at well over the DMP BD30 price-point & those profile 2.0 features are expected to produce a substantial premium from the punter?

Nevermind that there are currently 500+ Blu-ray titles for whom they are meaningless, eh?

Doesn't anyone else find it really weird how a product can supposedly be 'launched' officially today (or rather yesterday now in Euroe) and they are utterly silent about the price they expect for this SKU? ]]>Feb 12th 2008 8:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 7:30PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 8:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 12th 2008 9:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
It is the one I am looking at, unless it get some bad reviews, but I doubt all too much has changed since the DB30.]]>Feb 12th 2008 8:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
What TV do you use, you ask. How many players have you actually tested?

I work at BestBuy, I also have access to Magnolia Home Theater, and I have tested every player since the Sony BDP-S1. Pioneer, Sharp, Panasonic, Samsung, and I've even taken a crack at the Denon units, the 2500BTCI and the 3800BTCI. Unless you are upconverting standard DVD's in them (in which case I highly recommend the Denon units), the Playstation 3 decodes the video codec and reproduces audio as well as the most expensive units available.

I admit the 3800BTCI had a slight edge on decoding non-lossless audio, but would you notice (or care) for the $1599 price difference? Hey if your yachts are registered as some of the biggest in the world and your annual income is higher than that of most eastern european nations, than its a definite maybe.]]>Feb 12th 2008 9:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 1:20AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 1:30AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
I think that eliminates the idea that I have the cabling setup wrong.]]>Feb 12th 2008 9:42PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
But then, if you advocate the PS3 you don't care all that much about DTS-MA, which is the coming thing. The Panny BD30 would send that bitstream to your Denon 4308, which would decode it just fine. The BD50 would decode DTS-MA (or TrueHD) on its own and could pass that off to a _much_ cheaper AV receiver as PCM.]]>Feb 13th 2008 1:29AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
Secondly, just throw away the damn controller for the PS3 if you do not want the kids playing it. And the Bluetooth remote is bad for you? I've never had trouble with it, and there are ways of getting your Harmony 880 to work on it, you just need a IR to BT adapter (expensive for an adapter but not that much compared to the cost differences of the PS3 and the BD players above it).]]>Feb 13th 2008 4:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 4:33PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
Switched it for the Panny BD30 and just LOVE the change. its smaller, lighter but yeah, i lost the internal decoding for 5.1 analog. Now the plan is to move it (panny BC30) into my bedroom system as i don't need HD Audio there, and pickup the BD50 as soon as it hits our shelfs at work.


...Oh and btw, you want a good sci-fi movie to show deep blacks, bright whites, AMAZING detail and SFX, and great audio. Sunshine (2007) is totally that title. Too bad of it's non PG rating or i'd use it as a video demo on our TV's at work!]]>Feb 13th 2008 7:18AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 7:28AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
Just droped $215.00 on Amazon last night getting some GREAT titles thru that B2G1 Free Deal they had.

Sorry but Toshiba fucked up. They simply did not understand the concept of "war" and the simple notion that a little advertising goes a LONG way.

Well its their loss not mine. The only bad thing that kept me from Bluray was sony and even though they are a major backer of the product they're NOT the only company behind the format. SO at some point you just have to get over it.

As for this player it sounds really awesome. I wish it did the 7.1 Sound Output thing that people wanted it to have but other than that it looks perfect.

If the reviews for this beast are awesome I'm definitely picking it up though. Unless another/better 2.0 Player is announced and drops in around the same time.]]>Feb 13th 2008 8:45AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
I'm always glad to see someone realizing that Blu-ray isn't "Sony's" format. Sure, Sony may have the most visibility in Blu-ray since they went "all in" by tying their flagship game console to the format, but there are a LOT of other manufacturer options.]]>Feb 13th 2008 11:55AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Feb 13th 2008 9:39AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
You?

Or maybe the other guessing game players here?

Panasonic sure as hell didn't - even at the official launch! ]]>Feb 13th 2008 10:31AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/Yes, me you tart.]]>Feb 13th 2008 10:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
Just so we all know it's just another one here playing guessing games & who doesn't actually know Jack 'S'.

Not when Panasonic themselves were saying nothing on the matter at their official launch in europe yesterday.

Thanks for clearing that up.]]>Feb 13th 2008 11:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
I usually do NOT say this because I support personal rights, etc...but you really need to just stfu.

You're full of sh*t. Its pretty clear now to everyone that you're talking out of your ass and just saying random statements that don't really hold any weight.

I think its time for the ban. Like seriously. If you can't be realistic and see how unlikely any sort of comeback is for HD DVD at this point you truly are insane.

Wasn't you a few weeks ago that was claiming that Netflix is ALL that matters since HD DVD gets a lot of revenue (or profit don't remember which is more important to yoU) from renting there?

Now you and nfinity claim that Netflix doesn't matter? That this movie will take a long time (even though there are signs they will drop HD DVD as soon as possible given their emails to current users).

Plus since supposedly HD DVD owners are cancelling their subscriptions it'll be that much EASIER for Netflix to phase out HD DVD and move to Bluray exclusively.

Now onto Best Buy. I live in Raleigh, NC. When you walk in theres a 2 rows of Movie racks. The 1st one is for SD DVD's I believe. Its an average rack. Behind it but TWICE the lenght is the HD Movie rack. Now just a few days the BLURAY Section was BEHIND the DVD rack. As in it was hidden by the DVD section. On the other hand the HD DVD section (with all the Red galore) was out in THE OPEN and clearly visible to all.

I walked in yesterday and the situation was reversed. TO make it even more clear how Bluray is now the dominant format that Best Buy is pushing to the consumer they've taken away some shelves from the HD DVD side. Now 1/2 of that 2nd Row of Movies is full of VISIBLE Bluray Movies and 1/3 of the HIDDEN HD DVD side is NOW Bluray.

You can't argue against the numbers. You can't argue against the events that are taken place. Especially when your ONLY argument is that they were bribed. Oh by the way I'm sure you know that Dreameworks or Universal was bribed to right? So why is okay for the HD DVD camp to do that and NOT okay for Bluray?

Finally as for the price of this player...WHO CARES!? You've made the argument before that PRICE is all that matters right? Well if thats the case why isn't HD DVD winning? Why is HD DVD basically DEAD?

Seriously you need to face reality. I was a fence sitter for a long time and I was leaning towards HD DVD (mostly out of hate for sony) but its clear that the majority of consumers favor Bluray. Given the bigger space, more movies choose from, recent announcments by various groups/companies, and the arrival of Profile 2.0 Players (which hopefully is the FINAL Standard OR VERY CLOSE to it) I can say that I'm 100% comfortable with purchasing Bluray Movies right now.

Once again I say this as an average consumer from Raleigh, NC. Toshiba has no one to blame but itself. They hardly did any type of advertising to promote HD DVD. And they never really took the whole notion that they were at "war" with Bluray seriously enough IMO.

And look what it got them...HD DVD is DEAD. PERIOD. Honestly its time to move on folks.]]>Feb 13th 2008 11:52AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
Awwwwwww what's up, can't abide it when not everyone wants to fall down prostrate before your beloved, eh?

Cheers for giving me a great big laugh today tho, thanks for that, you sad little childish fascist nutter.]]>Feb 13th 2008 12:48PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/The US price will be MSRP$499 or less.
There will be an official press release for NA in the coming weeks.
Do you work within the Panasonic umbrella? I didn't think so.]]>Feb 13th 2008 11:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/slightly higher price than the BD30. Most are currently guessing
$599. I don't know if Panasonic wants to price out their BD30 right away when they'll be the first BD-Live player available other than the PS3.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=810
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Just had a lot to say in regards to you know who and his ridiculous crap.]]>Feb 13th 2008 11:53AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
I wish people would just stop baiting them.]]>Feb 13th 2008 12:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
I'm guessing the DMP-BD30 MSRP will drop to $399 when the DMP-BD50 comes out.]]>Feb 13th 2008 12:09PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/(1) clearly quite crazy or/and
(2) extremely ignorant and/or
(3) pushing (usually a very obvious) agenda.]]>Feb 13th 2008 1:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/]]>Feb 14th 2008 1:10AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
Now I look forward to concerts on Blu-ray. On DVD they look great but suffer from unimpressive audio. With the new HD audio formats I look forward to music that sounds as good as that which I experience from my multi-channel SACD/DVD-A audio system. Now that the HD-DVD/Blu-ray format war is over there shouldn't be anything keeping the more obscure labels (those that do concert videos) from going to full blown Blu-ray HD audio / video for their performance recordings.

I'll keep my HD-DVD player in my system as well. I suspect that one reason it bombed is that many others like me discovered that it does such a good job of upconverting that HD-DVDs (which look as good as Blu-ray DVDs - if not better) don't stand out as truly exceptional in comparison.

Does the beginning of May still look like Panasonic's DMP-BD50 probable release date? Any new word on this? ]]>Mar 22nd 2008 4:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/I wonder if the average person's ears and eyes are spec'ed up to hear the subtle difference?]]>Apr 10th 2008 12:41PM