Sigmatek's European SBR-1000 player does Blu-ray cheaper
By Richard Lawler 
posted Feb 15th 2008 8:01AM
posted Feb 15th 2008 8:01AM
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posted Feb 15th 2008 8:01AM
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Great news! The war is now between Blu-ray companies :) Soon other BD makers will lower the price too :)
This is another step in the right direction. Obviously the Blu-Ray player market is profitable for other manufacturers to create low cost units and still be competitive. As we look back on the failure of HD-DVD, it will be clear that Toshiba basically created a one man party, and left the others out to dry. In order to retain any sort of competition with Blu-Ray, Toshiba priced any other manufacturers out of the market.
This is a good sign for mass market HDM adoption, and it is about time that we can begin to concentrate on a unified market.
Agreed.
pretty looking player. If it can go for Canadian $200 (in Canada, of course), it's going to sell real well.
As said in a previous post, the way prices translate from European market to the US doesn't really work like that (250euro=$364).
Per exemple, the Sony BDS 300 is list price $499 in the US (cna be found at $399), and in Europe at 499Euros, despite the high Euro rate.
So we could defintiely see this kind of player around $250 soon :) (plus the brands showed us at Xmas that they could have their players at $299 - BDS 300 and BDP1400).
Another HD DVD created myth that Blu Ray would never go down in price goes .. down in flames :)
Transatlantic pricing usually goes 1:1 regardless of exchange rate so if its €250 here it will be $250 over there.
Anyway it is obvious blu ray player prices will continue to drop. There are multiple CE manufacturers all producing players. Competition in other words. And as the market grows the prices drop as economies of scale kick in. My first player cost £550(!) and you can buy them for next to nothing nowadays.
The only reason HD DVD players superficially look cheap is because their prices were subsidized. Toshiba had that luxury since it wasn't part of a large consortium and could fix prices however it liked. Unfortunately for them, the strategy didn't work.
I'd be scared to buy a no-name player without a few reviews. I expect it has to be profile 1.1 at least but will it be responsive, what will the BD-J be like and so on? The Sigmatek website somewhat resembles the operations of Silvercrest / Targa / Medion. That means you might see these things being flogged in supermarkets such as Aldi or Lidl.
If it sells for 250 euros in Europe you can also bet it will be $250 in the US if they sell it there at all. It's definitely a sign of things to come. There will be sub $200 players before the year is out and hopefully quite a few brandnames following up in the $200-300 category.
Yeah, you can already find the Sharp BD20U for $316 at amazon (New-pretty good 1.0 player), so it's a given that we'll have some 1.1 (maybe even 2.0) players around $200 by the end of the year imho.
well well where are the suckers that tought this wasnt going to happen. you dont have to be real smart to have seen this coming. its called common sence. of which fanatics, of either side, dont have none.
Yeah, one foreign press release, one no-name & completely unknown limited profile 1.1 player and suddenly everything is supposed to be ok for BD.
LMAO.
You guys. Talk about needy & desperate to believe.
It's a kind of touching devotion & very funny in a sad way.
TruthTeller aka Dave: "Talk about needy & desperate to believe"
Yes, there has been a lot of talk about
that . . . as it pertains to you.
So, why don't you give it up, slip in an
HD movie, and chill. The war's over son,
come out of the hills.
TruthTeller aka Dave: "Talk about needy & desperate to believe"
Yes, there has been a lot of talk about
that . . . as it pertains to you.
So, why don't you give it up, slip in an
HD movie, and chill. The war's over son,
come out of the hills.
You were happy about cheaper HD DVD players from less-known brands:
[QUOTE]As production ramps up and costs drop through the floor we can expect these brands (and there are at least 3 of them making this kind of player) to start exporting.
Expect $100 HD DVD entry level players by Easter/summer as a permanent feature, not a season special.
Blu-ray simply cannot compete.
[END QUOTE]
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/29/venturers-shd7000-hd-dvd-player-now-at-wal-mart-for-200/
Hey look at the bright side - HD DVD prices are coming down much faster than you expected. Forget 2nd-brand players for $100 in Easter/Summer - you can now get a Toshiba for $120 at amazon!
Actuallt Grubert if you knew the first thing about it you'd know that Alco (makers of the Ventuer and the other Chinese people like Shinco etc) were simply making HD A3s and putting their badge on them.
Identical.
In fact Toshiba stopped making the HD A3 and Alco now make them all
(which is why they preferred the Toshiba branded good to their own ion the end).
But you work away.
A Blu-ray player you know nothing about at a price you have no idea about (except that it's guaranteed to be at least $250 at best and $360+ at worst) is going to save the day for Blu-ray.
Mass-market here you come.
LMFAO.
Hilarious.
TruthTeller aka Dave: "Actuallt Grubert if you knew the first thing about it [snip]"
Hey Dave. Making new friends with your
disarming respectful style?
Lie Teller - You do realize that everyone here knows you're a troll and whatever you say counts for jack at this point, right?
What I say is when BD wins,
the consumer loses.
PATHETIC !
Yeah, cos $360 +
(or, hell even that BS about a $250 conversion......you get a 1:1 conversion of US prices going to Europe not the other way around)
is now the magic point for lift-off with Blu-ray amongst the mass-market!?
LMFAO.
You guys are so utterly delusional & desperate to believe.
TruthTeller aka Dave: "You guys are so utterly delusional & desperate to believe."
Again, so applicable to you Dave.
I think at this point most are on
to you. You could care less about
HD-DVD. You just like flame wars.
eh Bitter Boy !
Smart CE companies don't want to run it like a non-profit organization like you seem to think they should. They are in it for the $$, including Toshiba. Toshiba slashed prices in a desperate attempt to gain market share with the hopes that the royalties would recoup their fire sale losses. They gambled wrong.
Despite what you continue to yap about, BD player prices WILL come down as demand rises and manufacturing costs decline. Take a simple economics course before posting your garbage and stop sounding like a damn sore loser.
"save the day for Blu Ray"
Man .. are you totally delusional? Is Nfinity contagious?
I hate to break it to you, but Blu Ray has scored a 81-19 sales last week on discs, and 65% market share on players despite the huge sales set by Toshiba.
If you refer to the HDM market vs the DVD market (and mass adoption), we all know at this point that Blu Ray is ahead of the adoption curve, even by DVD's standards.
http://www.markrukavina.com/2008/02/04/next-generation-dvd-adoption-slow-but-ahead-of-original-dvd-historicals/
DVD players
1997: 305,000
1998: 946,000
High-def disc players
2006: 62,700
2007: 1,400,000 (does not include PS3s)
Don't worry Lie Teller. You might be a troll, but I'll always be here to lay the smackdown on your FUD with facts :)
TruthTeller...
explain to me this,
if Bluray wins it's bad for the consumer.
but if HD-DVD wins it's not bad?
how is that the case?
and actually if one has to win I'd choose bluray purely out of a competition standpoint. who makes HD-DVD players, Toshiba. you even said yourself that the cheap no-name hd player is a rebranded toshiba. who makes Bluray, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, etc.
ok, let's talk capitalism. Competition. competition between standards, there's always been a victor. VHS/beta, CD/Minidisk etc. etc. one comes out on top. always has been that way always will be that way. because consumers like consistancy. they don't want to have to worry about whether their minidisk player will play music in 3 years. so they pick a winner. and there are proponents on both sides who are disappointed with the final selection. there needs to be a single format. comparisons between the widescreen, full screen sd-dvds, isn't the same. both those movies will play on the same player. Media is cheap and replacable, players are where the investment is. most consumers are looking at the HD-DVD/Bluray battle and are confused. many are waiting for one to emerge as winner. because they want to be sure that their favorite movies will play on the device they purchase.
once the bluray side doesn't have to be united to compete against HD, they'll split apart and do their own thing and have competition amongst each other. maybe in a year panasonic will make a bluray player that blows the rest away. maybe samsung will follow suit and provide a player with the exact same features for $100 less. and the competition contines. if HD won. Toshiba celebrates, the rest of the companies have to fight toshiba for any marketshare, because they haven't been developing hd-dvd products. so they have a long fight to get to market with a player. Most will probabally license the toshiba and rebadge it just likke the no-name one, until they can get their own out. so again, your choices are limited do I buy toshiba? or Toshiba? for the next few years. where right now you can go and look at sony, panasonic, samsung, for bluray players. and you will in the future.