http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/ Engadget HD Comments for Toshiba CEO: HD DVD didn't stand a chance after Warner left http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 7:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 7:27PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 7:30PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Yes, Greg. I'm a sore loser. That's why I bought a Blu-ray and a HD DVD player at the same time. I support/ed both formats. Don't think for one second that I only support HD DVD. I love HD, so much that I didn't want to side with one format because I thought it was better. I'm just pointing out how completely pointless this article is. I mean are we going to have articles about the Last HD DVD player sold in about 7 months from now? When does it stop? Is EngadgetHD realizing that the format war was the main reason people came to site, so they are going to keep using it like hollywood keeps bring out retarded movie parody movies? Give the people what they want I, guess.]]>Mar 3rd 2008 7:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
I am just saying...]]>Mar 3rd 2008 8:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/]]>Mar 3rd 2008 8:20PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 8:31PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Ok, let's let the fact that you're comparing an entertainment format to Enron slide. On this blog, as many others, the format war has taken the form of a sporting event with associated smack talk. Just as in a post game show, the hosts are not bound to strict journalism standards when commentating on the event.

If you really don't care about that aspect of all this, then treat it as many people should treat news of Brittany Spears...a non event that is unfortunately discussed everywhere.]]>Mar 4th 2008 10:25AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 7:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 10:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 8:42PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Yes, I agree, but what I've been talking about from the begining is not the CEO. Its the fodder in the article. Clearly...its not that obvivious. So I'll say it agian. The fodder was not needed. Take out the HD DVD fodder you have news, but this is a blog. So "newsworthy" and blog don't really go hand in hand.]]>Mar 3rd 2008 8:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
But that's engadget, joystiq, and a whole host of other blogs. The fodder is what distinguishes them from strictly "news" sites. Whether it is a parody of Casablanca, or editorial comments of the kind you object to, it's part and parcel of these sites.

It's not engadget that has to reign in if the editorial humor is not for you. I still browse Gizmodo, though the host of a podcast I like, Cali Lewis, stopped reading because of perceived nastiness.

Hell, there is probably some reader out there still pissed at Betamax jokes. You just can't win 'em all.]]>Mar 4th 2008 10:44AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/I couldn't be happier, people talk about DVD upscaling, the job this thing does is remarkable, the difference between HD and DVD upscaled on this machine is minimal.
I will stick with this, maybe when a top of the range Panasonic profile 2.0 BR player is available for similar money I will jump in, until then, this baby will do me fine.]]>Mar 3rd 2008 9:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Quote: "the difference between HD and DVD upscaled on this machine is minimal."

You either need new glasses, a new TV, or a new format.
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It's much more than minimal.]]>Mar 3rd 2008 9:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Geez your a tool. I have a 50'Panasonic full HD and no I don't need glasses. Upscaled DVD on the XA2 is sensational, not as good as HD, but not far off it, read the product reviews, best DVD player of ANY brand 2007, so get your head out of your ass!
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LOL I miss format war posts! Just pushin yer button... but I would have to disagree with your assessment of "minimal" difference... but we would be treading on subjective matter. I'll just agree that HD-DVD players upscale quite nicely.]]>Mar 3rd 2008 10:04PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Don't worry about the negative responses, if they have a standard DVD upscaler you cant blame them for there responses.
I have a near new Panasonic 1080p upscaling DVD player as well that does a terrible job, the video quality is awful, so if that was all you ever saw, and a new Panasonic is great quality, you could be forgiven for thinking DVD upscaling is a load of crap.

We know the XA2 is a different story, let them gloat and enjoy there victory, and you buy a quality blu ray player for yourself if and when they ever build one.
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You blu ray tools keep believing your product is vastly superior, it's not, I suppose you have to justify your ridiculously expensive outlay some how!]]>Mar 3rd 2008 9:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Image quality is always going to be better on Blu Ray (and HD DVD) than DVD. Whether it matters depends on the movie, the movie transfer, your TV, your TV's resolution (720p or 1080p), how far away you sit from it and the price differential between SD & HD formats.

The difference is extremely noticeable on any modern large HD set. It doesn't mean an upscaling player can't produce a watchable picture but it sure as hell isn't the same as HD and it would be very easy for most people to tell the two apart.]]>Mar 4th 2008 7:04AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
Thats all their arguing.

As for bluray "fools" trying to justify their "expensive" outlay... its currently the only surviving HD format so i dont think they need anymore justification than their the new standard. Regardless if you like the format or not. ]]>Mar 3rd 2008 10:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/I stated I am waiting for the appropriate BR player to be available for me to buy, and in the mean time I am happy with upscaled DVDs and i get an avalanche of BR knob jockeys carrying on like F'Wits!
If you don't own a 50" Plasma and don't own an XA2, none of you can comments mean anything other then you are all talking shi*!
No doubt, the comments will be now thats what you all own as well, yeah right.
I REPEAT, I WILL BUY THE APPROPRIATE BR PLAYER WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE !]]>Mar 3rd 2008 10:25PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
You're a tool, upscaling or interpolation of data from a 480p source cannot come close to a true 1080p source. It is technically not possible. Now you can subjectively say it is ok for you, but that's you. And if you are fine with it ok. That's your opinion. But for the rest of us, 1080p TV is better with a 1080p source.

Then again you didn't have the foresight enough to pick the correct format, so it doesn't surprise me that you cannot see past your obvious wounds to admit HD is actually better than SD upscaled. Toshiba called it quits, you can drop the whole "upscale is good enough" talking point. Game over, pal, the evil empire won (sarcasm) ...]]>Mar 3rd 2008 10:46PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 10:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 10:49PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 3rd 2008 10:53PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
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It cannot conjure up detail out of thin air!]]>Mar 4th 2008 5:47AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/]]>Mar 4th 2008 6:49AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/Mar 4th 2008 6:46AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
As for Xbox 360 Ultimate with integrated HD-DVD drive, yes it was real and was scheduled to be demonstrated by Bill Gates during his CES 2008 speech, confirmed by a Microsoft VP and another Blu-Ray insider at avsforum.]]>Mar 4th 2008 9:17AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/03/toshiba-ceo-hd-dvd-didnt-stand-a-chance-after-warner-left/
I don't care what the CEO said it's not like the lies weren't thick on both sides. But no excuse for this sophomoric writing. I don't really mind that blatant lack of a good reason to post an article but when you compound that with writers who aren't even at High School level. Please give more more of a reason for stopping by. ]]>Mar 4th 2008 1:40PM