http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/ Engadget HD Comments for "Father of Java" talks Blu-ray 2.0 http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 5:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/n.

1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.]]>Mar 8th 2008 6:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 7:37PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 7:45PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 8:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
Dont let hd dvd supporters hear you! havent you heard the many arguments about that here in the comments pro hd dvd? they talk about that alot as if there was a way to meassure how much people really care for that. i for one dont care but people just need arguments to try to win. ? But anyway, so true what you said.

Hey engadgthd, heres an idea for a new poll. how much do you care about extra things in ur movies? how much often do you watch that special features part or that other disc that they sometimes bring? depending on the results we should tell fanboys of whatever side to shut up about that cuz its seriously annoying to see someone saying all the time "yeah hd dvd had it from day one!" well guess what! it didnt help sell that much!]]>Mar 9th 2008 3:36AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
Dont let hd dvd supporters hear you! havent you heard the many arguments about that here in the comments pro hd dvd? they talk about that alot as if there was a way to meassure how much people really care for that. i for one dont care but people just need arguments to try to win. ? But anyway, so true what you said.

Hey engadgthd, heres an idea for a new poll. how much do you care about extra things in ur movies? how much often do you watch that special features part or that other disc that they sometimes bring? depending on the results we should tell fanboys of whatever side to shut up about that cuz its seriously annoying to see someone saying all the time "yeah hd dvd had it from day one!" well guess what! it didnt help sell that much!]]>Mar 9th 2008 3:39AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
But internet access in general is such a marginal feature that I really don't see what the big deal is about.]]>Mar 9th 2008 5:08AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
Anyone that says editing out parts of a movie is a bad idea has NOT seen Star Wars Episode 1... DIE JAR-JAR DIE!

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Yes, hd-dvd was HDI ready from day one. We certainly have heard that so many times it's engraved in our minds now. Please tell us 10,000 more times, we still need to hear it every day , LOL. Dam, I thought the fanboys were gone when the war was over, now they linger on to curse the blu skies. Foolish me to think it would end.]]>Mar 8th 2008 7:36PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 8:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
"You will start seeing capabilities that hd-dvd could never have."

That is just a load of bullcrap.

Of course there will new capabilities; owning a Blu-ray player will soon be like owning a PC. Every two years you have to upgrade it to be able to take part of new features in movies (PC = games).]]>Mar 8th 2008 7:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
...unless your current Blu-ray player isn't a PS3 and you won't be able to access these "new" features.



"...from online chat with others watching the same movie..."

See: "Harry Potter 5" HD DVD



"...or the ability to offer downloads that re-edit a movie to block unwanted scenes."

See: "300" HD DVD]]>Mar 8th 2008 5:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 9th 2008 5:11AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/ever desire to edit out parts of a movie. I guess people are really thrilled about these features. I'm not. And I will likely buy a 2.0 Profile Blu-ray. But will probably never use these features.]]>Mar 8th 2008 5:58PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 11:42PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
Plus, editing out part of the movie? Why on earth would I want to do such a thing? I want to see the movie as the creators intended. As far as family viewing, I'll be keeping my daughter from watching inappropriate movies, period. Just because you edit out profanity, violence, and nudity doesn't make an adult themed movie appropriate for younger viewers. If you're editing it out for yourself, then frankly you're an idiot and you should just stick to watching G rated movies.]]>Mar 8th 2008 6:41PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
With the amount of posturing going on about profile 2.0 and BD-live one would think it would revolutionize the world of film and wipe and wash your butt. Chat and the ability to rearrange chapters does not constitute anything near a revolution. In fact they seem like silly gimmicks to me. And what about the promised games? Need I remind gamers of how bad most franchise games actually are? (Harry Potter, James Bond, Lord of the Rings etc)

Do one thing and do it well is what I say. Good picture and good sound... that's what ultimately matters. Extra features are fine if they actually add something to the understanding of a movie. All the rest is just filler, like trinkets in a happy meal. How this has become such a big deal is beyond me.]]>Mar 8th 2008 6:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
"Plus, editing out part of the movie? Why on earth would I want to do such a thing? I want to see the movie as the creators intended."

Two words - Phantom Edit. Sometimes the creators have their heads lodged firmly where the sun doesn't shine. ;)]]>Mar 9th 2008 11:34AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/What's taking BD so long? HD DVD has already accomplished this.

"...or the ability to offer downloads that re-edit a movie to block unwanted scenes..."
What's taking BD so long with this as well? HD DVD has been able to re-arrange movies for a while now, and I bet a blocking feature could have been implemented very easily.

Don't mistake my annoyance for fanboyism, I'm not a fanboy, I am going neutral soon. I'm just annoyed with BD trying to play catchup with something that's had everything that BD is trying to achieve.

I suppose the underachievers will always win.]]>Mar 8th 2008 5:58PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 6:32PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
I like how BorisBorf brought up multi angles. When i first discovered that feature on DVD, I thought this is going to be awesome. Then when i discovered no studio actually used it and when they did it was sub-par experience i never use it anymore!

Mitchell]]>Mar 8th 2008 7:13PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 9th 2008 11:13AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 7:30PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 8:24PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
Comparing HDi to Java is comparing Apples to Oranges.
The scope of HDi was much -much- more limited than Java, and in the end, once developpers start actualy using the language on BRD (hence the developping tools recently reported), we will see interactive apps much more advanced than what HD DVD ever could have proposed.

The cheap shot about being "online" first is stupid, because Java in itself is not just about being "online".
It's about both the Java portion, a real language , -and- the online interactivity.

Well, in the end, wether you like it or not, HD DVD failed, and is 2 feet under ground.

It's time to deal with it (both the fanboys -and- the author of the article).]]>Mar 8th 2008 8:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
I think it's more important for players to work on their Java performance in general. There is no excuse for some of the performance issues that some early players suffered when running BD-J content. That and price are far more valid reasons to wait than profile 2.0 players.]]>Mar 9th 2008 5:18AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 9th 2008 8:37AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
I don't want to download a firmware and burn it to disc every single time a new firmware comes out. I know that it is not that super common, but they are also not that uncommon. I really liked that I could select update firmware right from my HD-DVD player and it did it.

On top of that, there are movie updates. With movies on these formats getting more and more complex, there have been and will be playback issues. Especially with BD's track record with some players and load times with the oh so great BD-J. HD-DVD went out and checked for an update and updated. I never once had a issue playing a HD-DVD, not sure if it was completely attributed to these updates, but I am sure it helped. It would just be nice, especially in this day and age where quality control leaves a lot to be desired since pushing the product out the door is more important that making sure it works properly first.]]>Mar 9th 2008 11:16AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 8:51PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 8:55PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 8th 2008 10:40PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
"That all sounds nice, and we can't wait for the BD-J upgrades on our PS3's and new players from Panasonic and Sony, but we can't help wondering what it would have been like if someone launched online-capable HD players nearly two years ago. Yeah, that would've been sweet."


Everything was cool until you typed that crap. The war is long over and the subject is dead. If it was an attempt at sarcasm, well you suck at it, or at least should have tried harder. I just want to know what Blu has coming up. I don't come to Engadget HD for the trolls. I come here for the information on the industry and the latest in technology. The fanboys and trolling should be left to others, not the staff.

So make up your mind: Are you a blogger for Engadget HD that's above the B.S. or are you just another sorry troll?]]>Mar 8th 2008 11:03PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 9th 2008 4:02AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 9th 2008 6:16AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/
Also funny to consider this news, for the fact that its something a now defunct format spawned a couple years ago.

Sony is good for marketing and hype. I bet when this releases it will seem like it was an original idea.]]>Mar 9th 2008 3:25PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Yuck.
]]>Mar 9th 2008 8:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/03/08/father-of-java-talks-blu-ray-2-0/Mar 11th 2008 10:15AM