http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/ Engadget HD Comments for Nielsen VideoScan High-Def market share for week ending March 30th, 2008 http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
I also think what might have happened is that many people cannot afford 2 new releases in one week, so I think Enchanted will stay on the chart for some time.]]>Apr 5th 2008 1:03AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
It seems that people really don't want to buy expensive movies and players. If this is how they plan to overtake DVD, well it's gonna take them about 10 years just to come close.

We want $15 movies. That's how you push Blu over DVD. I sure stopped buying $25-$30 movies anymore. It's way too expensive.]]>Apr 5th 2008 1:21AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 1:29AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 3:56AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Since we don't know how much I Am Legend sold we can't say if sales are getting lower or higher - just as 78:22 (BD/HD DVD) doesn't necessarily mean lower BD sales than 84:16.]]>Apr 5th 2008 4:01AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 6:10AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 7:00AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 3:16PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
I like bluray a lot but, if the number of titles getting sold is getting lower and lower and this week and they made up 8% of all media sales that implies other weeks they sold MORE and 8% of all media.

For them to already be selling near %10 of the big market is pretty amazing already considering that when the Warner announcement happened it was around 2% of sales for HD-DVD and BD combined.]]>Apr 5th 2008 5:09PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 8:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 5:39AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 6:09AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Since there are so few BD disks compared to DVD, it makes the BD sales percentage look higher than way. Of course, if they didn't do that, BD would be selling 0.01%, which isn't very exciting to watch. As long as it clearly states where those numbers come from, it's as good a comparison as any I suppose.

Ben -- you must've been tired when writing this article:

"So while Weinstein has been quite about its "

Should be quiet....

and:
"We'd be very surprised to see that become a trent as"

Should be trend. :)

CW]]>Apr 5th 2008 10:39AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/"percentage look higher than way. "

Should be "THAT way..." Oh well :)
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F*cking hell, talk about shameless.

LMAO......yeah 8% on a ridiculously selective & cherry-picked stat.

Back in the real world it's definitely not even 2% of the DVD total
(and quite possibly not even 1%).

DVD sells 750 million+ units annually.

Blu-ray has not even sold that 2% (15 million units) since it began 2
whole years ago.

But why let the facts stand in the way of some laughable
self-delusion, obvious & deliberate manipulation & lies, eh?

.....and on top of all that eve now HD DVD continues to takes significant sales.

Hilarious.

Hey, here's a thought.

Why not demand a move away from these idiotic (and ludicrously spun) percentages & ratios and demand actual numbers?

Even if 'they' couldn't or didn't want to give them out weekly some actual numbers sold every, say, quarter would put this obvious & laughably manipulative BS totally in some accurate & honest perspective.]]>Apr 5th 2008 7:59AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Most rabid HD DVD zombies have created new usernames to post their anti-blu hate spin..]]>Apr 5th 2008 8:30AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/I think it's hilarious, as TT says, there is a shi* load of spin in those numbers to try and paint a pretty blu picture.
Anyway, using the spun numbers, BR as a percentage compared to DVD is exactly half of what HD DVD (a dead format!) is to blu ray , yet somehow all you blu storm troopers some how manage to think that is good??!
What this means is, if I've done my math right and I am half asleep, HD DVD STILL as of this week represents about 1.5% of the total market using these same spun numbers, and we all know that isn't right!
Typical BDA BS, the real picture is way different than what it appears here, BR would probably be around 1% real numbers??

Hey enghd, HOW ABOUT PRESENTING THE FACTS INSTEAD OF THIS BS, it would be more interesting reading and knowing what the real facts are, what the TRUTH is, instead of this made up, sanitized, cr*p!
]]>Apr 5th 2008 9:01AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 11:51AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Use words/phrases LMAO, Laughable and Delusion
Forget that when things are new, they don't sell as much
Assume Blu-ray is making no progress
From that assumption, assert everyone should quit
Somehow mention HD DVD (as if it didn't fail and Blu-ray didn't beat it)

]]>Apr 5th 2008 2:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/1. HDDVD fans are good at "hoovering"
2. Blu-ray is asking to be touched, but HD DVD fans are apparently too good
3. Untill Blu-ray is in the price of HDDVD it won't have the success of HDDVD, which is why HDDVD is still around and Blu-ray is being adopted at a good rate
4 Movies are going to stop being made because Blu-ray will never be adopted

"Stop hiding behind HD DVD.

We know HD DVD has retired from the competiton."

Truth Teller, all these people debunking your arguments aren't hiding behind HDDVD, but using it as a reference point to explain its failure. It failed because of studio support, which Blu-ray now has fully. Consumers aren't these in-depth thinkers you make them out to be (by the way, HDDVD fans could never buy a single Blu-ray disc and be fine). If Blu-ray becomes more prominent in stores, it simply will sell, which is what's starting to happen.

Resorting to launching an ad hominem attack against anyone who points the failure of your logic is a tactic I think you realize is unintelligent and doesn't convince anyone. If you're trying to rile people up though, then my hat is off to you because you do that quite well. You should work on presenting concise arguments without all of the shots you callously make, they work against you. If you have a valid argument, think about it and present it.

Saying Blu-ray has a low market share and therefor will never succeed is like arguing people want to drive gas cars because 99% of cars in the world operate on gas. People want an alternative, adoption just takes time as technology progresses. If you cannot see that then you are just riling people up. ]]>Apr 5th 2008 3:08PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 3:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 4:07PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
My beef is that this article is completely false, to represent BR at 8% of the market is an out and out lie no matter how much cotton candy you wrap it in, it is deception and an obvious strongly pro BR twisted statement from this website that is so one eyed as to be ridiculous.
All i want to see is the facts being presented.
HD DVD, a dead format, is really about .15% of the market, not 1.5% and BR probably closer to .8%, NOT 8% of the market, but I guess to present that from an obvious BR leaning site wouldn't help the BR cause they so strongly support.
Even if HD DVD had won i would be making the same call, present the facts as they are, lets watch HD media grow in the real light, not this twisted BS!

A casual observer coming to this site would easily leave believing BR is at 8% market share, this is a deception, plain and simple.
To present the facts like this is a joke, sure it makes BR look 10x stronger and better than what it really is and makes all you BR faithful feel warm and fuzzy, but stop deluding yourselves, it is a LIE !
I guess though, the BDA has never let the truth get in the way of a public perception, just another of the low tricks to deceive and delude the market place, IMO this is shameful behavior from this enghd site!]]>Apr 5th 2008 10:59PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 12:17PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 3:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Please go away. although you get mentioned often in the same breath as nfinity you are not the same.

Nfinity can make a rational argument about media and not insult people.

You can not. You bring an once of fact and a pound of bile. You are unable to add anything to a conversation. No civilized person would read through your venom to see what you present.


People, like me, read things here to get an over view of video trends because its a hobby. The second you post on a forum it becomes a toxic name calling match where any chance of this being a pleasant read is long gone.

You have freedom of speech and can say what you want as poorly and rudely as you want. I just wish you wouldn't say it here.

Yes bluray has a lot to do to capture the entire mass market. The sales numbers on new releases is a very important metric for bluray. Most of he money studios make on dvd media is on the new releases. Accounting for 8% of that market IS a big deal to the people who make movies. Since dvd's can play up converted on standard BD hardware I'm not sure studios are expecting people to rebuy collections. They have even been reluctant to re release back catalog items. so you can not even re-buy your dvd collection on BD if you wanted to.

They do expect that as time moves forward people will buy new disks in a HD format. Given the small install base of HD players at this point this shows that while small in numbers HD player owners have a disproportionate influence on the profitable end of the market.

As time goes on it will only increase. I think that 2009 and the digital tv switch over will have a big effect on BD adoption as people switch over to new HDTV's. I have a feeling that you will see lots of $1-200 BD players selling to people buying new sets.

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What a whiney bunch of sad-sack Blu-ray one-eyed fantw@ts.

Cry me a river girls.

Dry your eyes.

GFY.]]>Apr 5th 2008 9:12PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/

Cos afterall you just can't bear anyone puncturing your delusions about Blu-ray now can you?

SD DVD sell 750+ million a year and Blu-ray has yet to even manage 15 million units in 2.

But you want to cling to BS like '8%'.

LMAO

you reall think im all that for blu ray do you. shit man you got problems. you got real, real, real problems.]]>Apr 6th 2008 10:30PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Ditto your pathetic attempts to put words in my mouth (to suit your own obvious & ludicrously infantile agenda).

Go away you dreary little boring follower of Onan.

Go put on a PS3 game (assuming you have 1 or 2 you actually like) or a Blu-ray movie and start doing what you so obviously do best & so often. ]]>Apr 7th 2008 12:26PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 5th 2008 11:58PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
Typical puffed up pompous humour-free PS3 fanboy.

Where were your outraged calls for a ban when someone called me a 'c*nt' here, eh?
(maybe it was you hiding - like a childish little b!tch - behind a different user name, huh?
I notice some of you suggesting I change my tag, is it a reflex action for you ladies or something?)

Cos afterall you just can't bear anyone puncturing your delusions about Blu-ray now can you?

SD DVD sell 750+ million a year and Blu-ray has yet to even manage 15 million units in 2.

But you want to cling to BS like '8%'.

LMAO

(and you wonder why some people come in to laugh at you PS3 circle-jerkers)]]>Apr 6th 2008 7:29AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/Apr 6th 2008 12:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/04/05/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-march-30/
People who think that percentage comparisons of new releases between the incumbent format and its replacement is "spinning the numbers" need to really think about what the numbers are trying to represent and how statistics work.

Also, the numbers that are presented in the top ten are simply comparison numbers between all the titles in the list. They in no way show absolute sales numbers, so there is literally NO WAY you can draw a conclusion from them that Blu-ray is selling less this week than last week.]]>Apr 10th 2008 5:17PM