Torturing how? For providing support for their product unlike Sony who goes and keeps changing the specs of Playstation 3 for example every 3 months and keeps adding/subtracting features as one big F-U to consumers who already spent money? Not to mention Blu-Ray standalone players and their complete lack of updates.
@Nfinity What changes would those be then? Every PS3 plays PS3 games identically, infact they all play Blu-ray movies identically.
For the record, Microsoft have more SKU's than another other console, and swap more important stuff (lack of HDD in Core/Arcade anyone???, or the useless non standard HD DVD drive???)
Do you really need to ask test1? You know very well.
changing SKUs, limiting PS2 compatibility, canceling PS2 compatibility, original joystick with no vibration, dual shock 3 for $50-$60, then dual shock 3 included with the console as a big FU to those who actually bought a console just prior to that with non-dual shock 3 controllers. price from $600 to $400, cutting down memory cards, USB slots.
Please. It's a JOKE.
Xbox 360 has 3 SKUs.. for people who don't have a lot of money, for those who want to take advantage of Xbox Live marketplace and those who have a bit more money and want bigger drive. Not that Microsoft is saint, but they SHINE with support to consumers with this generation. Even with RROD they've really stepped up to the plate. Bottom line is this, those who bought Xbox 360 as soon as it came out, even today, have not been fucked over on any features. They are using the same things as people who just bought an Xbox 360 with the only difference of HDMI which is completely irrelevant as it is a way to connect your console to a TV. It has no barring on the games nor features of your console.
Let's not even GET into Xbox Live and other things that Sony has been completely devoid of. PSN and store, are you kidding me?
Talk about riding this generation on the backs of fanboys.
The consoles you names are all the same. There's no difference in them.
Core -> Arcade Premium -> Pro Elite -> Elite
The only thing they did is add the hdmi port and improved chip manufacturing to consume less power.
LOL..You fanboys are all the same I swear. You all quote the same information that has nothing to do with reality.
Not only that the Xbox 360 hasn't CHANGED in ANYTHING, they lowered the price.
PS3 had 20gb (no wifi), 60gb (wifi and hardware PS2 support), 80gb (limited PS2 support), 60gb (limited PS2 support), 40gb no memory card less USB ports no PS2 support. All of these have difference sets of FEATURES!!
PS3 from the start has been a joke, and you saying that Xbox 360 games were crap is purely your own worthless fanboy, very subjective opinion. Xbox 360 had AWESOME games and still continues to simply blow away everything from PS3.
I'm sure people like you will buy PS3 games (or make their parents to buy them) but it's only denial. There's no better platform for gamers then Xbox 360. Xbox Live, Achievements, Smoother and even better looking games and on and on.
I suggest you wake up, be objective and you will realize what is a better platform. Playstation 3 has been a horrifically planned console from start. Even themselves said they needed about a year or two to really make everything.
Even now, GT5 for example is already clear won't offer anything more then what Forza 2 offered almost a year ago or more (reviews are already showing that). Not to mention the fact that Sony fanboys are shelling out $40 for a BETA or a demo of the real game that is supposed to come out next year. Then you'll pay $60 for the full (SAME finished) game. Talk about intelligence.
nfinity said: Yeah and people who bought PS3 with no games, slow ass drive and like less then 500 hd movies overall at $400+ are oozing from intelligence. LOL!
What right do you have to insult those people who chose to purchase a PS3? We're not all raging fanboys you know, but after reading your posts nfinity for months now, I find your attitude to be insulting. Just because you do not like a product or company does not mean other people should not be enjoying it, which indeed we are. We have purchased a blu-ray player and next generation game system for a very reasonable price, one that is updated with new functions and improvements all the time. I am extremely happy with my PS3, and millions of others are too. Why don't you grow up and stop this childish behavior and show some respect for fellow electronics fans.
As for the less-than-500 movies issue, so what? It's a new format. I don't remember any statements like that from you when hd-dvd had 400 titles. Yes, you love your x-box, that's great, fantastic, please do enjoy it. Some of us chose something different, and we see the value in our purchase. Grow up!
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Oh why oh why do they keep torturing these people?
Torturing how? For providing support for their product unlike Sony who goes and keeps changing the specs of Playstation 3 for example every 3 months and keeps adding/subtracting features as one big F-U to consumers who already spent money? Not to mention Blu-Ray standalone players and their complete lack of updates.
Amazing logic.
@Nfinity What changes would those be then? Every PS3 plays PS3 games identically, infact they all play Blu-ray movies identically.
For the record, Microsoft have more SKU's than another other console, and swap more important stuff (lack of HDD in Core/Arcade anyone???, or the useless non standard HD DVD drive???)
Do you really need to ask test1? You know very well.
changing SKUs, limiting PS2 compatibility, canceling PS2 compatibility, original joystick with no vibration, dual shock 3 for $50-$60, then dual shock 3 included with the console as a big FU to those who actually bought a console just prior to that with non-dual shock 3 controllers. price from $600 to $400, cutting down memory cards, USB slots.
Please. It's a JOKE.
Xbox 360 has 3 SKUs.. for people who don't have a lot of money, for those who want to take advantage of Xbox Live marketplace and those who have a bit more money and want bigger drive. Not that Microsoft is saint, but they SHINE with support to consumers with this generation. Even with RROD they've really stepped up to the plate. Bottom line is this, those who bought Xbox 360 as soon as it came out, even today, have not been fucked over on any features. They are using the same things as people who just bought an Xbox 360 with the only difference of HDMI which is completely irrelevant as it is a way to connect your console to a TV. It has no barring on the games nor features of your console.
Let's not even GET into Xbox Live and other things that Sony has been completely devoid of. PSN and store, are you kidding me?
Talk about riding this generation on the backs of fanboys.
Typical Xbox imbecile.. Can't even count..
"Xbox 360 has 3 SKUs.."
Xbox Core
Xbox Arcade
Xbox Premium
Xbox Elite.
Here's a helper, Thats FOUR (4) so far.
Hoever, we also have:
Premium with HDMI
Core with HDMI
Acade with HDMI
That's SEVEN (7)
Don't forget the 20GB Halo3 edition (8).
temp1,
you are really a typical fanboy aren't you.
The consoles you names are all the same. There's no difference in them.
Core -> Arcade
Premium -> Pro
Elite -> Elite
The only thing they did is add the hdmi port and improved chip manufacturing to consume less power.
LOL..You fanboys are all the same I swear. You all quote the same information that has nothing to do with reality.
Not only that the Xbox 360 hasn't CHANGED in ANYTHING, they lowered the price.
PS3 had 20gb (no wifi), 60gb (wifi and hardware PS2 support), 80gb (limited PS2 support), 60gb (limited PS2 support), 40gb no memory card less USB ports no PS2 support. All of these have difference sets of FEATURES!!
PS3 from the start has been a joke, and you saying that Xbox 360 games were crap is purely your own worthless fanboy, very subjective opinion. Xbox 360 had AWESOME games and still continues to simply blow away everything from PS3.
I'm sure people like you will buy PS3 games (or make their parents to buy them) but it's only denial. There's no better platform for gamers then Xbox 360. Xbox Live, Achievements, Smoother and even better looking games and on and on.
I suggest you wake up, be objective and you will realize what is a better platform. Playstation 3 has been a horrifically planned console from start. Even themselves said they needed about a year or two to really make everything.
Even now, GT5 for example is already clear won't offer anything more then what Forza 2 offered almost a year ago or more (reviews are already showing that). Not to mention the fact that Sony fanboys are shelling out $40 for a BETA or a demo of the real game that is supposed to come out next year. Then you'll pay $60 for the full (SAME finished) game. Talk about intelligence.
nfinity said: Yeah and people who bought PS3 with no games, slow ass drive and like less then 500 hd movies overall at $400+ are oozing from intelligence. LOL!
What right do you have to insult those people who chose to purchase a PS3? We're not all raging fanboys you know, but after reading your posts nfinity for months now, I find your attitude to be insulting. Just because you do not like a product or company does not mean other people should not be enjoying it, which indeed we are. We have purchased a blu-ray player and next generation game system for a very reasonable price, one that is updated with new functions and improvements all the time. I am extremely happy with my PS3, and millions of others are too. Why don't you grow up and stop this childish behavior and show some respect for fellow electronics fans.
As for the less-than-500 movies issue, so what? It's a new format. I don't remember any statements like that from you when hd-dvd had 400 titles. Yes, you love your x-box, that's great, fantastic, please do enjoy it. Some of us chose something different, and we see the value in our purchase. Grow up!