http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/ Engadget HD Comments for Kaleidescape claims new 1080p upscaling DVD players "rival Blu-ray" http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 9:16AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 10:04AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 9:18AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/
But hey, if you're stupid enough to pay $50k for a DVD jukebook with an ugly UI, then I'm sure you're stupid enough to buy a 5k DVD player that can't play Blu-ray Discs cause your integrator told you that you can't tell the difference.]]>Jun 18th 2008 9:24AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/
And wouldn't someone who drops 50K for jukebox would already be using a high-end scaler anyways?


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All my new titles will be blu-ray and I will be replacing some of my favorites in blu-ray, such as LotR, Starwars, etc...

By the way, this is impossible to be equivalent to blu-ray. No matter how much spin and hype Toshiba or anyone else puts out there, taking SD DVD and processing them only enhances the SD content but it cannot "create" extra resolution or color without some artifacting and other possible side-effects.

Like I said, this will be good for SD DVD's that you are necessarily dying to have in blu-ray but a blu-ray killer it is not....nor will it be equivalent...]]>Jun 18th 2008 10:12AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/]]>Jun 18th 2008 10:29AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/
Sure I'll be fair, when they are able to do a comparison showing a good blu-ray disc next to one of these new super upconversion players with the same disc in dvd format on matching tv's calibrated identically, I'll be very fair with my opinion, but I have my doubts. It also states that it will handle PCM soundtracks...now is that supposed to be of any use? How many dvd's have PCM on them? Maybe 25? What about all of the other 100,000 releases? Are they going to sound as good as that blu-ray lossless disc playing right next to it when many dvd's have Dolby Digital somewhere near 300kbps compared to a Dolby True or PCM track neat 4mbps or dvd's with DTS (of which most were 768kbps not 1.5 mbps)?

You guys are forgetting that half the experience is in the sound, and there's no way to uncompress a compressed audio track except for falsely equalizing the soundtrack. So IF this turned out to look as good as an actual high definition disc (?), I still have little interest because after 14 years I am tired of hearing cramped sound that does not present the proper musical stage or anything near what studio masters sound like, where you can hear that violin string being pulled or that bass drum in all its glory. DVD could simply never do that properly. Lossless can.

Listen, for $199 (which is what I believe blu-ray players will be this holiday season, at least on a few sales), a person is much better off with that package. Now, for those with huge dvd collections (and I do have one myself), many of those movies will take a long time to come out on high def disc. If a player could look close to high def, then it may be worth it for someone who doesn't mind buying yet another upconverting player, but certainly a player like this is not within the price range of the average consumer.

I'll be one of the first to check out Toshiba's super upscaling player because I would like to upscale my dvd's better than I am now (although I am using the Realta chip) until a blu-ray version of the movies are released. But I have always advanced with modern electronics that vastly improve what I am watching AND hearing, and if these indeed do give us a better dvd picture, for me that's only half the story when the horrible dvd sound compression remains.]]>Jun 18th 2008 11:22AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 11:26AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 11:50AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 19th 2008 4:50AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 11:52AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/
Think about it: Anyone with a top-notch home theater and the crazy coin to throw at a product like this *might* get it to complement a Blu-ray player, but certainly not as a substitute for one.]]>Jun 18th 2008 11:53AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 18th 2008 1:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/
The problem is NOT the player -- it's your cables!

Standard HDMI cables don't have the extra digital signals needed to carry the new interpolated data. You really need to get the KCM(tm) brand super-HDMI cables with patented Proterpolation Plus parallel signaling over thiotimoline-doped xenon-free vacuum-filled hollow copper cables.

At a mere $899/meter these advanced cables match you DVD players upconverting capability dollar-for-dollar. Available at all pro high-end AV stores!]]>Jun 18th 2008 2:02PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 19th 2008 12:17AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/06/18/kaleidescape-claims-new-1080p-upscaling-dvd-players-rival-blu/Jun 19th 2008 4:47AM