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My community was visited by a Verizon subcontractor two months ago when underground conduit was placed throughout the neighborhood. For the past three weeks Verizon trucks have been on the highway next to the community working on the fiber runs. But if I go to the Verizon web site I learn that I cannot subsubscribe since FIOS is NOT AVAILABLE in my community.

In the meantime I watch Verizon make all these great incentive offers that can only be claimed by others.

This is known as frustration.

How about other folks. Do you think Verizon should be able to make these offers to persons who cannot qualify or will not qualify until after the offer expires? ]]>Aug 12th 2008 9:06PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/]]>Aug 13th 2008 1:23AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/Aug 12th 2008 9:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/Aug 13th 2008 8:23AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/Aug 12th 2008 10:00PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/Aug 12th 2008 10:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/Their DVR is crap, so it should be free.
If you want reliable recordings and Guide Data that says something more than "Comedy"; prepare to shell out for a Tivo.

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FYI- Motorola software is behind the in-home DVR networking function, but otherwise the software that runs on the Motorola set-tops is not Moto.]]>Aug 13th 2008 9:40AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/
shell out more upfront for sure.

but for $20 per month for the home media dvr, and at least $5 per month for each set-top box that you stream video to, the verizon solution can add up quick. and it is $10 per month for a hd (non-dvr) set-top box, which verizon may/may not be able to stream to currently (although i believe if verizon doesn't stream hd currently that there are imminent plans to do it).

cable card fees are $3 per month (times two per tivo), which runs $12 per month for two tivos (because i don't believe verizon offer m cards yet). so it is $6-$12 per month for tivos (lower fee if you can get two m cards). versus $25-$30 per month from verizon (only higher fee would allow hd streaming). so it is $13-$24 per month more expensive for verizon.

tivohd's are $300 for the box plus $300 for lifetime service (at least right now i believe that is the Lifetime price which is currently being offered -- a $100 discount per box?). initial outlay of $1200. not factoring in the time value of money, the $13-$24 additional per month translate into a 50-92 month break-even point.

the two tivohd solution involves two hard drives which is essentially double the space of verizon one hard drive solution. i have two series 3's (250 gb -- 30-32 hours HD), which is essentially triple the storage space versus verizon (about 50% more recording per tivo vs. the one verizon dvr).]]>Aug 13th 2008 1:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/
Now there is no harm in loving your TiVo. Certainly the TiVo is a better product, but ask yourself, is it worth the premium? Your math suggests that the break even is anywhere from 4 to 8 years -- and in my case likely on the higher side because of the discounts. And when you consider the fact that the TiVo will break or become obsolete in 4 to 8 years, and Verizon will simply swap out their broken or outdated boxes in that time, your logic becomes flawed.

Like I said, if you love your TiVo, by all means its your right and you have good reason to love it. However, why are you trying to justify it by badmouthing Verizon's service? Are you just jealous that your cable company doesn't offer 100 HD channels yet?]]>Aug 13th 2008 6:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/http://hd.engadget.com/2008/08/12/verizon-pushes-hd-dvrs-in-new-fios-tv-promotion/
Can I activate them on my FiOS and eliminate the rental fees?]]>Sep 24th 2008 1:18PM