Blu-ray simply isn't making money and one of the ways to cut losses is to get out of it (at least for now).
Toshiba did and have just said it had a positive & beneficial impact on their financial results this quarter, I did not expect them to be the only ones to get out of disc-based high def and here we go, looks like that was correct.
And don't say we didn't tell you..."We mean, who in there right mind would buy a stand-alone DVD player if they could buy a Blu-ray player for the same price?"
That's a major boon for Blu-ray. It's how they beat out HD-DVD in the first place. You're already in their home as a dvd player (or game console) why not check out what this whole blu-ray thing is about?
"daaper And don't say we didn't tell you..."We mean, who in there right mind would buy a stand-alone DVD player if they could buy a Blu-ray player for the same price?"
Let us know what year you imagine that is going to happen.
There's also the not-so-small matter of a $150 - $200 POS no-name Blu-ray junk-pile verses a brand name $75 upscaling DVD player. That's not exactly a certainty for Blu-ray.
Besides they are nowhere near $150 yet nevermind "the same price" (and limited numbers of old dead model stock clearances do not count or make for a regular selling price) so Ben's own little opinion and expectation comment is hardly a definitive reflection of present reality.
Yes, oh brilliant one, you've shown me the light! Prices will never fall and Blu-ray players don't upscale like dvd players do. $150-200 no-name? Since when are Samsung and Sony no-names? Those "old" decks, that you conveniently chose to exclude, do everything the upscaling dvd players do plus play Blu-ray. You keep twisting the facts and moving the bar around for some reason and I'm not sure what it is. While you're wishing for Blu-ray to die, I guess I'll just keep on enjoying it while it's here. Such a sad life you must lead...
The only Blu-ray players in the $150 - $200 bracket are no-name junk heaps or small numbers of old dead lines being cleared (ie the S300 Sony or the BDP1400 Samsung).
That's not exactly a like-for-like comparison with a current $50 - $75 DVD player.
You can ignore that & go off and rant about Blu-ray's benefits if you like but when the majority, by far, that do have an HD TV have a small HD TV with a 720p resolution (as EngadgetHD confirmed here in a recent report) it's not quite the leap you so obviously want it to be to.
Clearly I'm ranting. I'm saying I enjoy something that you do not, which can't be allowed in your world. I must be imagining that Blu-ray movies look better than upscaled DVDs on my tv because you say that's not true. Such hysteria the world has never seen! Give me a break...
Do you really care this much that Blu-ray should fail? Should nobody else enjoy it if you don't? I just can't quite grasp your motives for these "I told you so..." moments you seem to cling to in every story about anything Blu. A high-end manufacturer decides that it can't make money gouging consumers for pretty common tech and that's a bad thing and a clear sign that there's no money to be made for anyone? Would you say the same thing if they decided they can't make money selling $250 DVD players? Something tells me: no....
"daaper @ Oct 31st 2008 2:14PM Clearly I'm ranting. I'm saying I enjoy something that you do not, which can't be allowed in your world. I must be imagining that Blu-ray movies look better than upscaled DVDs on my tv because you say that's not true."
Yeah and inventing a funny little story too.
The facts are that on a small to medium HD TV (32" - 50") @ 720p (which are the majority of all sets out there in the minority section that is the HD TV sector then the gap between DVD upscaled & Blu-ray is much narrower.
I never once said there was no difference (typical fanboy straw man argument).
I actually have a Blu-ray player (in fact it's a brilliant little combo player so I don't have to play your silly fanboy games, it's also multi-region for DVD & Blu-ray so I think it's probably more accurate to say that I am enjoying something you are not)
The piece of this tale you started out with was completely wrong.
You claimed DVD and Blu-ray were at or about to be getting down to equal pricing.
They aren't.
It doesn't matter if Ben made the comment too it's still not reality out there.
The closest you get to that reality is (1) stock-clearance on some old dead models (specifically the S300 & Samsung 1400). Neither of which are very good models (being both slow & buggy) or (2) POS no-name brands currently @ about $200.
Neither $150 (the clearance Sony & Samsung price) nor $200 are equal in price to a decent brand-named DVD player (say a Pioneer DV310 @ $69).
Enjoy your silly little inventions & predictable ravings (oh great one, lol, try & get a grip)
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Don't say I didn't tell you.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/30/the-rumors-of-blu-rays-death-are-greatly-exaggerated/comments/15215659/
Blu-ray simply isn't making money and one of the ways to cut losses is to get out of it (at least for now).
Toshiba did and have just said it had a positive & beneficial impact on their financial results this quarter, I did not expect them to be the only ones to get out of disc-based high def and here we go, looks like that was correct.
Damned typo.
Obviously I meant Toshiba got out of highdef on disc production, not Blu-ray production.
And don't say we didn't tell you..."We mean, who in there right mind would buy a stand-alone DVD player if they could buy a Blu-ray player for the same price?"
That's a major boon for Blu-ray. It's how they beat out HD-DVD in the first place. You're already in their home as a dvd player (or game console) why not check out what this whole blu-ray thing is about?
"daaper
And don't say we didn't tell you..."We mean, who in there right mind would buy a stand-alone DVD player if they could buy a Blu-ray player for the same price?"
Let us know what year you imagine that is going to happen.
There's also the not-so-small matter of a $150 - $200 POS no-name Blu-ray junk-pile verses a brand name $75 upscaling DVD player. That's not exactly a certainty for Blu-ray.
Besides they are nowhere near $150 yet nevermind "the same price"
(and limited numbers of old dead model stock clearances do not count or make for a regular selling price)
so Ben's own little opinion and expectation comment is hardly a definitive reflection of present reality.
Keep taking the Kool-aid.
Yes, oh brilliant one, you've shown me the light! Prices will never fall and Blu-ray players don't upscale like dvd players do. $150-200 no-name? Since when are Samsung and Sony no-names? Those "old" decks, that you conveniently chose to exclude, do everything the upscaling dvd players do plus play Blu-ray. You keep twisting the facts and moving the bar around for some reason and I'm not sure what it is. While you're wishing for Blu-ray to die, I guess I'll just keep on enjoying it while it's here. Such a sad life you must lead...
daaper
The only Blu-ray players in the $150 - $200 bracket are no-name junk heaps or small numbers of old dead lines being cleared (ie the S300 Sony or the BDP1400 Samsung).
That's not exactly a like-for-like comparison with a current $50 - $75 DVD player.
You can ignore that & go off and rant about Blu-ray's benefits if you like but when the majority, by far, that do have an HD TV have a small HD TV with a 720p resolution (as EngadgetHD confirmed here in a recent report) it's not quite the leap you so obviously want it to be to.
Good luck with the hysteria!
Clearly I'm ranting. I'm saying I enjoy something that you do not, which can't be allowed in your world. I must be imagining that Blu-ray movies look better than upscaled DVDs on my tv because you say that's not true. Such hysteria the world has never seen! Give me a break...
Do you really care this much that Blu-ray should fail? Should nobody else enjoy it if you don't? I just can't quite grasp your motives for these "I told you so..." moments you seem to cling to in every story about anything Blu. A high-end manufacturer decides that it can't make money gouging consumers for pretty common tech and that's a bad thing and a clear sign that there's no money to be made for anyone? Would you say the same thing if they decided they can't make money selling $250 DVD players? Something tells me: no....
"daaper @ Oct 31st 2008 2:14PM
Clearly I'm ranting. I'm saying I enjoy something that you do not, which can't be allowed in your world. I must be imagining that Blu-ray movies look better than upscaled DVDs on my tv because you say that's not true."
Yeah and inventing a funny little story too.
The facts are that on a small to medium HD TV (32" - 50") @ 720p (which are the majority of all sets out there in the minority section that is the HD TV sector then the gap between DVD upscaled & Blu-ray is much narrower.
I never once said there was no difference (typical fanboy straw man argument).
I actually have a Blu-ray player (in fact it's a brilliant little combo player so I don't have to play your silly fanboy games, it's also multi-region for DVD & Blu-ray so I think it's probably more accurate to say that I am enjoying something you are not)
The piece of this tale you started out with was completely wrong.
You claimed DVD and Blu-ray were at or about to be getting down to equal pricing.
They aren't.
It doesn't matter if Ben made the comment too it's still not reality out there.
The closest you get to that reality is
(1) stock-clearance on some old dead models (specifically the S300 & Samsung 1400). Neither of which are very good models (being both slow & buggy) or
(2) POS no-name brands currently @ about $200.
Neither $150 (the clearance Sony & Samsung price) nor $200 are equal in price to a decent brand-named DVD player (say a Pioneer DV310 @ $69).
Enjoy your silly little inventions & predictable ravings
(oh great one, lol, try & get a grip)