http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/ Engadget Comments for NAD's $1,500 T 587 Profile 2.0 Blu-ray deck shipping in December http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 3rd 2008 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 3rd 2008 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/
Current Blu-ray pricing vs DVD:


Cheap: BD: $250. DVD $25.
Good: BD $400-1,000 DVD $40-100
High-end: BD: $1,500+ DVD $150

Anyone see a pattern here?
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Amazon also has the S350 for $254. If you buy 4 warner movies from a list, you get $100 back. That equals about $225 for the player + 4 free movies.

Best Buy has an insignia player for $200 (just as crappy as your $25 DVD player).

Walmart has the S300 for $200.

So, the low end price on a blu-ray player is $200, not $250. And the S350 is a fine Blu-ray player at $225. The top end Oppo DVD players are over $200. Just looking at amazon, I found a couple DVD players over $1k.

So basically, you had inaccurate pricing on every level.]]>Nov 4th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/
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The cheapest upscalers are $38 at Wal-mart and $50 at Best Buy. These are the 2 big CE stores, and they both have blu-ray players at $200.

There is also no such thing as an obsolete Blu-Ray player. They will all play the movies (minded, they may need an update for a Fox distributed movie on release day). Yes, you can get features from 1.1 and 2.0, but you can also get Progressive Scan or Upscalling features on DVD players, two features that the vast majority would agree are more important than Bonus View and online whatever.]]>Nov 4th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/
An obsolete Blu-ray player is a Profile 1.0 or 1.1 system, one that is physically incapable of playing many of the advertised features of new discs. There is no DVD equivalent. There are no retailers trying to offload stocks of obsolete DVD players, but there are many trying to get rid of obsolete Blu-ray players.

In any case, it seems you've missed the entire point. Prices of BD players are approximately TEN TIMES AS LARGE as prices of DVD players, comparing category with category. Saying "How dare you! I can find a closed out, obsolete, no-name Blu-ray player that costs less than $250" doesn't in any way shape or form undermine that, especially when $200 is about as low as you can go.

Even if you were able to fiddle the figures so they're "ONLY" FIVE TIMES AS LARGE, is that REALLY an argument you want to be making?
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If you want to call the 1.0 and 1.1 players obsolete in your mind, go ahead, but you have to realize that you're in the minority. Several polls have shown people care most about the movie. My car is not obsolete because it doesn't have bluetooth to sync my phone. My computer is not obsolete because I set it back to Windows XP from Vista.]]>Nov 4th 2008 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 3rd 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/
Good times.]]>Nov 4th 2008 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 3rd 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 1:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/
I don't get the obsession with cheap crap on this blog. It seems almost everyone here wants cheap, mindless consumer junk. Seriously, do you guys have any fun, or do you just try to find the cheapest item for the least money and pretend you are special because of that?

Once you use nice things, you start to realize how bad most of the stuff we are exposed to in daily life is - or at least how much better it could be. I never thought I would own a $1500 CD player, but I do now and I am not only delighted to use it...but to see it every day. Nobody is going to wake up in the morning and say, "Wow, I own a Samsung BD-P1500!"

On the flip side, spending a grip of cash on a device that will probably need to be replaced in 3-5 years might not be the best...but life is short, and if your pockets are deep, why not have something nice, now?]]>Nov 4th 2008 2:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 7:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Personally, I am the same, I only buy reasonably high end gear, not the most expensive but good quality none the less, but I will still argue the point that BR as a format is still to expensive at this stage for main stream adoption.]]>Nov 4th 2008 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/nads-1-500-t-587-profile-2-0-blu-ray-deck-shipping-in-december/Nov 4th 2008 8:51PM