LCD looks just as good to me at my Best Buy store when compared to plasma.
In short I feel that plasma is overrated. And the price you pay for some of them is just ridiculous considering the very little increase (if any at all) in PQ.
Take 40-49" TVs from bestbuy.com and in Magnolia the SONY KDL-46XBR8 is the most expensive indoor TV. (The Sunbrite is more expensive and still an LCD.) The KURO elite PRO-111FD is cheaper and blacker http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/16/lcd-vs-plasma-in-2009/.
In the non MAG category you have to pass the SONY KDL-46XBR6 and the Samsung LN46A850 to get to the TH-50PZ80U from PANASONIC.
Plasmas provide better MOTION LINES of Resolution, Better CONTRAST, and Better COLOR Accuracy, hands down. Some of the newer ones also provide that energy star new spec crap.
Plasmas are cheaper than plasmas is most instances (Pioneer Kuro would be an exception), unless you shop at Wal Mart where they have one plasma to chose from. Look online and you will see this. Who knows where you are from? You're probably a typical person who thinks they know something about TVs and say you like LCDs better because they are much brighter and have more neon colors, inaccurate colors. When you break it down however, plasmas have better black levels, higher [native] contrast, more accurate primary colors, and handle fast motion better (even when compared to LCDs with the 120Hz gimmick).
Plasma undeniably has better contrasts but LED LCDs will mostly put paid to that advantage. And despite what some claim, power consumption is awful compared to LCD. Not in every case but in general.
I am not certain that the EU is specifically banning plasmas, just any model which exceeds some maximum consumption criteria, which just happens to be *most* plasmas. That alone will doom the format.
I don't think LCDs should rest on their laurels. For those devices which meet the EU criteria, they will still have to show an energy rating. I very much hope the rating motivates the industry and consumers to seek out more energy efficient devices. I know that all things being equal I would prefer an A rated device over a B or lower. Ultimately it means HDTVs that are cheaper to run which is no bad thing.
Those EU things are stupid. They've already severely hurt consumer electronics with the stupid lead ban which banned the use of about 5% of lead in consumer products. They left out the biggest users of lead with CRTs and lead acid batteries. Now our products are shit and are thrown away much faster filling our land fills with harmful substances other than lead faster.
gah'd i knew your name looked familiar. you were the one on joystiq saying how much of a star wars nerd you are, but you had no idea what star wars battlefront was about. nice to see your'e on joystiqs sister site spewing the same idiotic chatter
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LCD looks just as good to me at my Best Buy store when compared to plasma.
In short I feel that plasma is overrated. And the price you pay for some of them is just ridiculous considering the very little increase (if any at all) in PQ.
Umm what are you talking about overrated? LCDs are always more expensive than Plasmas, and most people think LCDs are better than Plasmas.
That's not what I've seen where I'm from....
LCDs are always cheaper and to me their a better deal.
I read gundam's post as a confession of his ignorance.
Take 40-49" TVs from bestbuy.com and in Magnolia the SONY KDL-46XBR8 is the most expensive indoor TV. (The Sunbrite is more expensive and still an LCD.) The KURO elite PRO-111FD is cheaper and blacker http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/16/lcd-vs-plasma-in-2009/.
In the non MAG category you have to pass the SONY KDL-46XBR6 and the Samsung LN46A850 to get to the TH-50PZ80U from PANASONIC.
Plasmas provide better MOTION LINES of Resolution, Better CONTRAST, and Better COLOR Accuracy, hands down. Some of the newer ones also provide that energy star new spec crap.
The KURO Elite plasma is without a doubt the best picture on any HDTV. I'll take a top-end LCD over any plasma other than the KURO.
Plasmas are cheaper than plasmas is most instances (Pioneer Kuro would be an exception), unless you shop at Wal Mart where they have one plasma to chose from. Look online and you will see this. Who knows where you are from? You're probably a typical person who thinks they know something about TVs and say you like LCDs better because they are much brighter and have more neon colors, inaccurate colors. When you break it down however, plasmas have better black levels, higher [native] contrast, more accurate primary colors, and handle fast motion better (even when compared to LCDs with the 120Hz gimmick).
Plasma undeniably has better contrasts but LED LCDs will mostly put paid to that advantage. And despite what some claim, power consumption is awful compared to LCD. Not in every case but in general.
I am not certain that the EU is specifically banning plasmas, just any model which exceeds some maximum consumption criteria, which just happens to be *most* plasmas. That alone will doom the format.
I don't think LCDs should rest on their laurels. For those devices which meet the EU criteria, they will still have to show an energy rating. I very much hope the rating motivates the industry and consumers to seek out more energy efficient devices. I know that all things being equal I would prefer an A rated device over a B or lower. Ultimately it means HDTVs that are cheaper to run which is no bad thing.
Those EU things are stupid. They've already severely hurt consumer electronics with the stupid lead ban which banned the use of about 5% of lead in consumer products. They left out the biggest users of lead with CRTs and lead acid batteries. Now our products are shit and are thrown away much faster filling our land fills with harmful substances other than lead faster.
gah'd i knew your name looked familiar. you were the one on joystiq saying how much of a star wars nerd you are, but you had no idea what star wars battlefront was about. nice to see your'e on joystiqs sister site spewing the same idiotic chatter