http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/ Engadget HD Comments for Moxi's 500GB HD DVR now available en masse http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 10:29AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 2:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:54PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 10:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 10:48AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
"As of now, anyone with a CableCARD..." the cablecard (in layman's terms) is essentially your cable box in a kick-ass little form factor.

What's really a shame is that you still have to use Comcast's UI from like 1985.
Comcast is pathetic; I wish I could leave them.]]>Mar 25th 2009 10:57AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 11:08AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 11:10AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 11:15AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 11:00AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 1:29PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=362736]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:32PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 11:14AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
I think the Moxi unit needs to shave around $200 off the price to be competitive with TiVo. That way there is the same upfront cost, but no recurring fees.

The price differences kinda remind me of the original ReplayTV vs. TiVo model. ReplayTV originally had no recurring fees, but the boxes started at $599. While TiVo had the subscription model, with boxes starting at $299, IIRC.]]>Mar 25th 2009 11:12AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 11:55AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
It's fate was sealed after being targeted for extinction by Hollywood because of the automatic commercial skip features.

]]>Mar 25th 2009 4:27PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Actually the true root of ReplayTV's demise was simply bad timing. ReplayTV was supposed to IPO not too long after TiVo did. Unfortunately, between the time that TiVo IPO'd and Replay was supposed to, the IPO bubble burst. So they cancelled the IPO. This means they didn't have the cash to pay for fancy marketing like TiVo's Joe Montana/Ronnie Lott Mascualine Itch Superbowl commercial.

That lack of cash also is what caused them to be acquired by SonicBlue. Sonicblue itself wasn't in the best finanical shape and could never get the cash influx it needed to stay afloat. Certainly the lawsuits exacerbated the problem, but aren't nearly the cause of the Sonicblue failures. The introduction of the iPod in '01 probably had a bigger impact (Sonicblue's other line of products was the Rio Mp3 players).

That said, IIRC TiVo did have the sales lead even before the IPO, so TiVo would have probably still won out in market share, but I think had ReplayTV IPO'd earlier, there would have been room for both in the market.

I still do miss Automatic Commercial Advance.]]>Mar 25th 2009 5:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/This thing has been for sale on Amazon since December.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/12/11/500gb-moxi-hd-dvr-now-available-really/

It's not like it's a Best Buy or anything.]]>Mar 25th 2009 11:33AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 12:26PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
One issue with cable-cards in general has to do with SDV I believe... which is why TiVO has a "tuning resolver." But this product also does need to migrate to a device.

No mention of a possible WiFi receiver, so one might HAVE to run Cat 5 (or 6) to the TV area...

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Why hasn't someone yet seen this void in the marketplace and jumped in to fill it?]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 1:40PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
For $199 more ($998), you get a TiVo HD XL that has DOUBLE the disk space...

Lame...

Also, does it give you?
- Netflix streaming
- Amazon VOD
- YouTube

C'mon!]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/TiVo HD $250 (amazon)
500 GB external drive $112 (buy.com)
lifetime for existing TiVo owners $299

or $674 total with more space than the Moxi and it works with OTA.

]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:48PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
Or for the same price of $770 and some technical know how, you can expand the Tivo HD with a different external eSATA hard drive and bump the capacity up to 1.1TB]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:47PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/TiVo HD $250 (amazon)
500 GB external drive $112 (buy.com)
lifetime for existing TiVo owners $299

The Tivo is $674 total (or $125 less than the Moxi) with more space than the Moxi and it works with OTA.

]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:54PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 3:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:11PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
That said, I do like my TivoHD and some of the features it offers.

There are two key enhancements Moxi should make:

1) Drop the price a couple hundered bucks.
2) Add tru2way capability to allow full access to the cable co's services.

Other stuff like YouTube, Amazon On Demand, Netflix, are all simple software upgrades that will likely come over time.]]>Mar 25th 2009 4:35PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
Moxi
Records and stores up to 3 hours of live TV so you can always back up to see what you’ve missed

TivoHD XL
Records and stores 30 minutes of live TV


External Memory

Moxi
Expandable up to 2 TB with any DVR-Ready external eSATA hard drive

TivoHD XL
Only expandable with Western Digital external eSATA hard drive (officially supported option)]]>Mar 28th 2009 2:23PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/Mar 25th 2009 4:43PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
Well the other thing that prevents me from a Moxi, is the lack of Cable's On Demand access. If they can't do that, then how about a Boxee-like internet grabbing platform with recommendation to friends"support?

The Moxi UI is very classy, after all it's in true HD. Tivo's UI is stretched, and Comcast's UI is just plain last century (think windows 1.0).


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In fact, as far as I know, all that gives you is more conversion options to and from the Tivo (iPod, divx, etc). But anyone with half a brain can setup any one of the free Tivo streaming packages (pyTivo, Galleon are two that come to mind) and use that instead.

--Jeff]]>Mar 26th 2009 6:59AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/03/25/moxis-500gb-hd-dvr-now-available-en-masse/
Also, I personally don't see why you need a 500GB or 1TB drive on these things. I set my shows to record, I watch them within a week, and then I let them go. My standard-sized TiVo HD works fine. I'd like to see the monthly cost decreased significantly ($12.99/month for a TV guide?!?). IMO, TiVo should set the monthly price at about $3/month, and then charge $50 (optional) for major software upgrades.

So, getting back to cost...I think this is how it really works out for someone like me:
TiVo HD: $200-300 (depending on whether you're happy with a refurb from TiVo)
annual service: $130 (you have to commit to a year anyway, so may as well pay for a year and save $26 over the monthly cost)
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1 year cost: $330-430
2 year cost: $460-560
3 year cost: $590-690
4 year cost: $720-820
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As far as the size of the HDD goes, the larger the better. Your usage patterns aren't necessarily the same as other people. I don't always have time to sit and watch everything I've recorded on a weekly basis. Sometimes it might bet three or four weeks before I can sit down and watch what I've recorded. That's the whole point of DVR's, I can watch when I want and have time. In addition, recording HD content on the high quality settings takes alot of space.

I do agree that Tivo's fees are ridiculous for what they offer. A program guide that isn't always up to date with new channels, occasional software updates, and a stagnant interface.

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