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Regardless, I think most people would be overly joyed if they got high-quality 4K footage at 40 or 50 Mbit /s.]]>Apr 25th 2009 4:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 25th 2009 4:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 25th 2009 4:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 25th 2009 5:05PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 25th 2009 11:20PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 25th 2009 11:24PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 26th 2009 12:04AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/
I had no idea if it was true then, and have no idea if it's true now.

-Pie]]>Apr 26th 2009 12:59AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 26th 2009 12:12PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/It's an uncompressed format, and NOT what is on a DVD.
That is MPEG2, which are you rightly say tops out at around 10Mb/s]]>Apr 28th 2009 10:07AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/Apr 26th 2009 7:15PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/" . . . Bullhockey . . . "
" . . . This is BS . . . "

People said the same thing when they announced the RED One Camera before it's release and now a whole lot of people are enjoying a giant slice of humble pie. We have 2 RED cameras and a close relationship with the guys over there. I have to admit, of all the announcements and prototypes I've seen, this has me the most baffled. I was there and saw it for myself - I didn't go behind the scenes to see if it truly was running off RED Ray mind you, but they've never lied to us in the past and I doubt they would lie to us now. Too much is riding on their name for that and they have way too many critics to make a claim this outrageous without being able to back it up.

All I know is they showed us this years RED Reel in uncompressed 4K and followed it up right after with last years reel only instead of uncompressed 4K it was RED Ray at less than 10mb/s. I kid you not when I tell you the latter was indistinguishable from the former. Insane! That being said, I imagine it's going to take a pretty beefy system to encode either their R3D format or uncompressed 4k into Red Ray . . . think of how long h.264 / Blu-Ray takes to encode now even with the new Nehalem architecture!

TB]]>Apr 26th 2009 8:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/04/25/red-blows-away-small-room-of-videophiles-with-4k-red-ray-footage/
We all know Jim Jannard has a bazillion dollars at his personal disposal, which appears to allow him to pull off product economics that are not possible elsewhere. But we also know that RED is severely overhyped with very little product actually delivered (compared to what's always "just around the corner"). It's really no surprise there are still so many RED skeptics, me included. 4k video at under 10 Mbps that is indistinguishable from an uncompressed stream? That sounds like a best-case scenario, or a claim that will have qualifiers and caveats attached to it, once people get to use it.

Let's wait until we actually see this product in the real world, and not in some tightly-controlled marketing demo.
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