http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/ Engadget HD Comments for TiVo HD upgrade program helps you save as much as $100 http://hd.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://hd.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 3:14PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 3:24PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/if you have an S2 (like i do) and have had it longer than 3 years (and we have) - you can get an HDTiVo w/a lifetime subscription for $500. You get a $100 discount off the HDTivo and $100 off the lifetime service. I just put it in my 'cart' to see what options I'd have.
Now you know - shop accordingly.]]>Jul 2nd 2009 3:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 10:42PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 3:20PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 3:41PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 3:44PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 3:50PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 4:33PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 4:57PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
TiVo HD still = Lame. It's just way too expensive.]]>Jul 2nd 2009 10:03PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 2nd 2009 10:56PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
Michael_R I'm sorry, you've either never seen HD on a decent set or your watching on something under 30" in size.]]>Jul 3rd 2009 8:52PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 3rd 2009 3:24AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
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What are you smoking?

A TiVo draws about 35Watts 24x7, a PC barely draws more than that, but lets say it was 3x higher just for the sake of argument. Let call it an even 100 watts.

There are 8760 hours in a year.
The TiVo draws 306.6 Kwh a year while the PC draws 876. Here in Tampa the per kwh charge is .11, so it breaks down as $96.36 for the PC and $33.72 for the TiVo. So a $62 a year difference. Now even the cheapest TiVo service is $8.33 a month if you prepay for 3 years or $100 a year.

So in other words, no the TiVo still costs you more even if the PC uses over 3x as much power and you prepay for service for 3 years. ]]>Jul 3rd 2009 9:40AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/You do know you can turn off a computer rather easily, so if you know you want be recording anything until after you need to use it again, unlike a TiVo. That's to say you turn off your computer anyways. If you already leave your computer on all the time, the power consumption is marginal at worst. You can even record in "sleep" mode. I've even been able to leave the computer in sleep mode and used by Xbox 360 to watch programs in another room. I find that the screen blanks out after awhile, which is a little annoying, but that's not a big issue. I just have to press "Play" on the remote, when my computer is in sleep mode. That's not actually too often.

There are other reasons I leave my computer on all the time, too. And the reason aren't nefarious either. I work at home, so I do use it much of the day, and I only sleep about six hours a night. I will actually wake up after six hours of sleep, but I don't always get that much sleep. When I don't I have an alarm on my computer, which is the only thing I can get loud enough, to wake me up when I need an alarm. The alarm doesn't work in when the computer is asleep, so I can't always put it asleep at night.

So actually with my setup, having TiVo will cost a lot more for me because not only will it be another device to power, but I would also have to pay for the guide.

FYI, there is no safe way to turn off a TiVo. If you remove power, it will damage the hard drive because TiVo is always writing to it. If the power is removed too much, it will eventually render the hard drive useless.]]>Jul 3rd 2009 2:55PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 3rd 2009 3:25PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
You don't really believe that 200 Watt power supplies always draw 200 watts do you? You really should do a little research before you make yourself look stupid on a public forum.]]>Jul 3rd 2009 3:26PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
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Yeah, there are free schedules on the internets, and cheaper devices, you someone has to develop the software/hardware and update lists. For the average user (non engadget reader), thinking less about tinkering with their DVR is always better.

Now if only the hd directivo would hurry up and get to market..if ever.]]>Jul 3rd 2009 9:38AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 3rd 2009 3:01PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 3rd 2009 7:28PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/Jul 4th 2009 11:32PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
If there is a way to turn off time-shifting and just use the PC as a VCR, then your computer could be asleep most of the time.
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Well consider me dumb because I did think that a PC with a power supply is always running at that power supply rate. I have a 850 watt power supply gamer pc and thought that while that pc was on - even just surfing the net or checking email - it was always pulling 850watts. This is why I use a mini laptop as my always on tivo server and 3 usb external 1.5 ter drives and automatic back up running 24/7. The laptop draws much less power over my gaming pc, but I actually did think that I was burining electricity at 850 watts with my big rig. Now my gaming rig has no "power down" or "step down" power features on the mobo, but I guess the only real world test to detirmine ow much power any pc is drawing is to use that plug in thing called "killowat" - which I dont own.]]>Jul 15th 2009 10:43AMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/I would think that since it was their fault all along that they would at least transfer the lifetime since I had the added expense of the new HD TIVO. The did tell me that I could also sell my Series 3. I guess it is time to take the HD one back to the store and give in and take the cable company DVR box. I also have a series 2 lifetime TIVO and a 6.95 a month series 2 TIVO. They seem more willing to work with you if you have a monthly contact because they are losing money if you cancel but they do not lose anything if yu get upset with your lifetime box.]]>Jul 24th 2009 8:18PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
They sure surprised me! :-)]]>Jul 24th 2009 8:22PMhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/http://hd.engadget.com/2009/07/02/tivo-hd-upgrade-program-helps-you-save-as-much-as-100/
OUR OLD TIVOS NEED TO BE UPGRADED AND IT IS NOT OUR FAULT FOR THE DIGITAL CONVERSION. WE SUPPORTED TIVO IN THE PAST AND NOW TREATED POORLY HAVEING OLD SERIES 2 TIVOS AND CANT TRANSFER LIFETIME ARRANGEMENTS TO THE HD TIVO. I DON'T HAVE CABLE AND TIVO W A BOX CONVERTER IS REALLY BAD.

WE NEED TO UPGRADE TO BE IN TODAYS STANDARD - A SERIES 2 TIVO A YEAR OLD WITH A LIFETIME SERVICE IS OBSOLETE.

A ROKU FOR 99.00 DOES EVERTHING - I WILL HAVE TO SWITCH -- IT IS TIME]]>Sep 18th 2009 11:55PM