A year removed from adding 720p streams to its repertoire, YouTube Director of Product Management Hunter Walk hit the stage at NewTeeVee Live and mentioned, among other things, that over the next few days it will be rolling out 1080p video, including going back and re-encoding all previous videos uploaded at that resolution. While other streaming services have offered 1080p for some time now we weren't exactly expecting YouTube to flip the switch just yet. With an eye towards improving quality for its 10-foot experience and moving beyond just the computer screen, clearly an upgrade was necessary, though Blu-ray or even VUDU quality is probably out of the question (though if the company jumps in the online rental biz all bets are off) the commitment is for your uploaded content to "look as good or better than the source quality." Check the video after the break for more tidbits about what's next for the site, including YouTube XL.
Trying to watch HD on YouTube is a joke. You spend so much time trying to buffer the video that you just plain loose interest in watching it. I don't know if it's just my ISP playing around with my connection our YouTube needing to beef up it's infrastructure, but 1080p is just going to make the problem of HD video even worse for everyone.
Plus, who really has the screen resolution to actually use all 1080 pixels? Are they counting on the fact that because the bitrates are so low that 1080p from YouTube may finally outclass 720p with a decent bitrate? I'd rather they improve that than go adding pixels when they're really not needed.
My biggest gripe with Youtube's HD is that the video window never changes to actual resolution of the file that is being streamed. Most of the HD is 720, but the video window is at maximum 853x505. What kind of resolution is that? Other video sites do this and it tries me crazy. I often download the file with software or greasemonkey scripts to get 1:1 pixel.
Uh, not sure what you mean by "screen resolution" but I have a second monitor that's 1920x1200, so to answer your question, I have that resolution. Several of my friends have that resolution. In fact, MANY people have that resolution, so...what's your point?
"Better than the source quality" is almost complete rubbish. Are they going to try and upscale iPhone 3Gs video to 1080 or even 720? For the most part, upscaling doesn't work, so YouTube, just give up right now, and just keep the resolution and even bitrate just like the original and we can agree on that. Okay?
I smell a PS3/360 client in the works youtube added h264 codec a few weeks prior to Apple putting youtube in the apple tv/iphone and seeing this would make sense.
why dont they use silverlight for this??? at least that offloads to the gpu and makes even netbooks able to watch 720p. flash is getting awfully long in the teeth compared to silverlight...and its awfully bloated
Flash has something similar to the stuff silverlight can do but it does seem for some reason flash developers are not taking advantage. Ive said it before but the smoothstreaming tech in silverlight is awesome. All video online should use something similar.
A continuous battle is given between broadcasting communities which are now so popular and YouTube is now trying to achieve even better video quality to stay in front of the other competitors like Hulu. Facebook is moving fast also with it's viral power and recently closed a partnership with a streaming company. YouTube said they will go back and re-encode all previous videos uploaded at that resolution. They are not the first company to achieve that as previous releases have been already tested and released a few months ago. Here is an article talking about this technology with technical details for a better understanding: http://www.thehdstandard.com/hd-broadcaster/ Indeed as Jeff previously commented I am curious how they will solve the buffering issues because I'm losing a lot of time trying to view a video encoded at that standard. _______________________________________ Catalin Streaming Consultant www.eyepartner.com/presentation
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Yea keyboard cat in 1080p!
Those GMA950s are gonna be all over it!
"look as good or better than the source quality."
Garbage In = Garbage out.
Plus, bitrate is just as important as resolution in this case.
Trying to watch HD on YouTube is a joke. You spend so much time trying to buffer the video that you just plain loose interest in watching it. I don't know if it's just my ISP playing around with my connection our YouTube needing to beef up it's infrastructure, but 1080p is just going to make the problem of HD video even worse for everyone.
Plus, who really has the screen resolution to actually use all 1080 pixels? Are they counting on the fact that because the bitrates are so low that 1080p from YouTube may finally outclass 720p with a decent bitrate? I'd rather they improve that than go adding pixels when they're really not needed.
My biggest gripe with Youtube's HD is that the video window never changes to actual resolution of the file that is being streamed. Most of the HD is 720, but the video window is at maximum 853x505. What kind of resolution is that? Other video sites do this and it tries me crazy. I often download the file with software or greasemonkey scripts to get 1:1 pixel.
Uh, not sure what you mean by "screen resolution" but I have a second monitor that's 1920x1200, so to answer your question, I have that resolution. Several of my friends have that resolution. In fact, MANY people have that resolution, so...what's your point?
"Better than the source quality" is almost complete rubbish. Are they going to try and upscale iPhone 3Gs video to 1080 or even 720? For the most part, upscaling doesn't work, so YouTube, just give up right now, and just keep the resolution and even bitrate just like the original and we can agree on that. Okay?
-Brian
yeah, only if your internet sucks.
I just checked http://www.recastdigital.net/DEMO/ and their HD video looks very good!!! No stopping all the time like youtube video.
I smell a PS3/360 client in the works youtube added h264 codec a few weeks prior to Apple putting youtube in the apple tv/iphone and seeing this would make sense.
Flash in 1080p? Suffer the CPUs.
When is the 10.1 beta finally going to be ready. I'm looking forward to this supposed performance increase.
why dont they use silverlight for this??? at least that offloads to the gpu and makes even netbooks able to watch 720p. flash is getting awfully long in the teeth compared to silverlight...and its awfully bloated
Flash has something similar to the stuff silverlight can do but it does seem for some reason flash developers are not taking advantage. Ive said it before but the smoothstreaming tech in silverlight is awesome. All video online should use something similar.
Hello:
A continuous battle is given between broadcasting communities which are now so popular and YouTube is now trying to achieve even better video quality to stay in front of the other competitors like Hulu. Facebook is moving fast also with it's viral power and recently closed a partnership with a streaming company. YouTube said they will go back and re-encode all previous videos uploaded at that resolution. They are not the first company to achieve that as previous releases have been already tested and released a few months ago. Here is an article talking about this technology with technical details for a better understanding: http://www.thehdstandard.com/hd-broadcaster/
Indeed as Jeff previously commented I am curious how they will solve the buffering issues because I'm losing a lot of time trying to view a video encoded at that standard.
_______________________________________
Catalin
Streaming Consultant
www.eyepartner.com/presentation