http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/ Engadget Comments for HDHomeRun's CableCARD implementation lives up to the brand http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Jan 7th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
they can share the copy freely recordings I'm assuming]]>Jan 7th 2010 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Jan 7th 2010 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Jan 8th 2010 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
PS Ben, the RVU alliance website has a PDF with the locations of Demo's (4 IIRC). Any hope that a firmware update for those new Samsung 3dTVs could enable RVU? :) ]]>Jan 7th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
Wish these guys would do a four tuner version, it would make more sense for a shared pool to have four tuners. Any chance that the tuner can feed the same show to two pcs at the same time since you can't share a recording? That way you could have the same movie available on two machiens.]]>Jan 7th 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
Yes, well at least with the current HDHomeRun. Just use hdhomerun_config to send a stream to a UDP multicast address (like 224.0.0.1) and then use VLC on the two computers to read from the multicasted stream. We use this method at work to send out the locals to hundreds of IPTV boxes on our network.]]>Jan 8th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
Personally I thought the HDHomeRun was for a niche market, more so then Media Center is. I like the concept of the product but only if I can have multiple media centers share the same guide, recorded shows, etc...]]>Jan 7th 2010 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
Not sure why it would matter if they share the same guide, each PC attached to the HDHomeRun just download's it's own.

What we all want is tuner pools where multiple 7MC boxes negotiate tuners for recordings in case the machine set to record doesn't have the tuner availability and another box does...]]>Jan 7th 2010 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
Yes but still, I see it as a small niche market.

And Media Center is great but I do wish it would allow you to hook up multiple computers that act as one for recordings, guide, etc...There are ways to kind of do it but it's not native.

But for HDHomeRun, and the CableCARD version, I would only use it so I could have a smaller HTPC not using any tuner cards inside or having it attached outside the box. I could hide network tuners a lot easier.]]>Jan 7th 2010 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
-Brian]]>Jan 7th 2010 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Jan 7th 2010 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
Can an XBOX 360 running media center extender in another room view that recording?

]]>Jan 7th 2010 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
How logical is DRM? (not very)]]>Jan 7th 2010 10:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Correct. Your Mac can't use this (or any other CableCard tuner) due to Apple not having a CableLabs-certified content protection system. :P

@ cypherx:
Yes. An Extender can play back any 'protected' content that was recorded by its host Media Center. Since the 360 works as an Extender, it'll work.

-Chris]]>Jan 7th 2010 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Jan 8th 2010 7:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Has there been any news on new extenders? ]]>Jan 8th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/
- UBICOM 71xx series network processor. A newer version of the processor in the HDHomeRun.

- The RTL8211 NIC supports Gigabit Ethernet. Forget about network congestion.

- USB-A port means it's clearly for a tuning adapter and NOT a host interface. So this tuner can handle the TA itself. Very nice.

- The reason you see 3 tuners is because there actually ARE 3 tuners: Two tuners for QAM and one for the OOB data channel.


This tuner is very good news for the Mac and Linux community. Here's why:

CableCARDs are bound to the device they are paired with. In this case, the tuner itself, not any of the devices the tuner is connected to.

All of the authorization and decryption is handled inside the CableCARD's secure processor, not on the PC or the tuner. Video comes out of the CableCARD unencrypted, but to be compliant the device _must_ apply some form of protection to content that has the Copy Control Information (CCI) flags set. (Windows Media DRM is used to be Media Center compatible.)

All CableCARD tuners are in fact networked uPnP devices. Even the ATI tuner appears as a USB network adapter, gets an IP address, and talks to the host over uPnP.

So, there's nothing to prevent the tuners from being used by different PCs at different times, as long as the DRM is enforced when the CCI says it must be.

However, (on my cable system, at least) most of the non-premium channels do not have the CCI flags set. Movie channel are usually the ones that have CCI: HBO, SHO, MAX.. the only standard digital channels I've seen with CCI are AMC and AMC-HD.

If the CCI isn't set, the video can be streamed over the network in the clear. None of the uPnP control is encrypted. which means there is absolutely no reason why MythTV, for example, couldn't talk to it and get an unencrypted stream for any subscribed channel with non-CCI content.]]>Jan 8th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/hdhomeruns-cablecard-implementation-lives-up-to-the-brand/Jan 8th 2010 10:18PM