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The other thing I would like to see happen is to ban cable companies from owning STB and open it up just like the telephone industry. The fact that two companies have 95 per cent of the STB business in this country is certainly an indication of lack of competition.

John]]>Mar 17th 2010 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/I did the exact same thing. The tuner in my TV hasn't been used since they got it working (which took about 5 or 6 visits from a cable guy). Just waiting for my Ceton card (which is May now...grrrrr.)

One of the cable guys was actually friendly and told me all they do is read the CableCARD ID and hardware ID of the TV to the "central office". There is no other troubleshooting they can do other than trying another CableCARD.

End users SHOULD be able to call up and give them those numbers themselves.]]>Mar 18th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Declaring it a failure doesn't make them all go away, the cable co's and CE companies will have to continue to support them for years. And even in the picture above the IP gateway still uses a CableCARD.]]>Mar 17th 2010 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/I think it is only a failure due to lack of support. I use one in my ATI and LOVE what windows mc does with it. I am actually getting rid of my top boxes once the 4 tuner card gets delivered in May (?supposedly?). And as BenD said, there's plenty of people and companies that DO have it and would like those improvements. It might actually end up being successful once "fixed" ]]>Mar 17th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/yea thats what i'm saying... it seems like theres no technical reason that cablecard needs to be replaced, only that no one uses it. why not stick to what has already been built - no need to reinvent the wheel]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/ "FCC wants to see the biggest issues with CableCARDs resolved by this Fall"

sounds like a mandate to me :)]]>Mar 17th 2010 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Actually no really. In fact only three markets are tru2way ready for 3rd party devices. So even if the TVs were made, you'd only be able to use them in Chicago, Atlanta and Denver.]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/I think this report closes the lid on the coffin of tru2way. The cablecos couldn't make it work on their own boxes and there was support of one Panasonic set in three markets.

]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
It seems like capable people just started running it. Why dissolve it now?

It would take years to put a new system in place.


CABLECARD FOR BOXEE!!!]]>Mar 18th 2010 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Bravo for proofing.]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
I use 2 of the DVB versions on my home network and they are magic, all my Windows 7 PC get TV access and don't need integrated tuners.

They are in the process of testing and certifying a new M-Card version of it with Cablelabs and Microsoft.

]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Actually the IP gateway would be two way, while the SD CableCARD tuner is only going to be one way. But yeah, OCURs have always been IP based so very similar.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8523&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
As far as satellite, it's worked the same way for a long time and isn't related to the cablecard fiasco, so there may be no good reason to complicate it with new IP gateway devices.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
As long as people like to watch sports and news there will always be "channels." And with the super bowl hitting new records every year, it doesn't look like people are ready to let channels go.

But yeah, IP delivery makes more sense for on demand content.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Unless you are going to go to every internet router and enabled and configure multicast. Live streaming only works because of how few people are watching it. If you tried to stream even a moderately popular HDTV show live to 10 Million people, the internet would be crushed.

And even if it was currently possible, it would cost more than cable or satellite so what's the point?]]>Mar 18th 2010 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
NEWS FLASH:
instead of charging 14 bucks a month for a crappy dvr we will now be charging 12 + 2 bucks a month for a cable card.

Done

they will do everything in their power to resist all of these

cable companies are big slow and dumb they are the anti free open economy. ]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Exactly, because right now I'm paying $4 per card, so I'd now be saving $2 a month.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/right my point was just that the language
"If a customer has a CableCARD in their leased set-top box, it must be reflected on the bill like any other CableCARD would."
doesn't demand a large change

To me this doesnt mean that they would be free for those of us using them in our htpcs.

My point was that worst case scenario comcast discounts its box rental 2 dollars and adds a 2 dollar cable card rental fee netting out to a 0 dollar change. The cable company just has to add a line item for cable card rental on each of its box rentals. I think this language would actually need to state that no user can not be charged for a cable card. It isnt as though the price charged for a cable dvr rental actually represents the cost of the dvr itself.
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Those words are my own, click through the link for the actual language used. Bottom line is they want transparency in the charges.]]>Mar 18th 2010 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
But that's been fixed now, and I'm about to buy a Ceton "InfiniTV 4" for my computer. But if the FCC has its way, the card will be completely useless in two years when they force the cable companies to ditch the CableCARD technology altogether for a brand new one. Thanks a lot for wasting my time and money, FCC. I guess small startups like Ceton will go out of business, as their cards are rendered obsolete and stop working within a couple years.]]>Mar 18th 2010 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
NO, this is Ceton's dream come true... they will be able to make a product that allows Media Center and lots of other software to act as tuners to not just cable systems but to IPTV and Satellite systems as well. Best of all, One product will work on any type of system.
They can also make full set tops for those that do not have or want a HTPC.]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
I'd say that you're probably good to go buying the Ceton card. I'm sure they'll weigh in on the issue.]]>Mar 17th 2010 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 17th 2010 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
Yes, I'd imagine you'd have one box that would deliver both internet and video services, but it could be two separate boxes. I figure this will work the way the phone service does. Some customers have one box that does both, others only have a cable modem.]]>Mar 18th 2010 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
This isn't going to be an overnight change, it's going to be like the change from regular STB to STB with cablecards which started in July 2007 with new installs and replacements. I still have one box without a CC because it hasn't failed yet.

The big news is that this time it's going to impact all delivery systems be it cable sat or fibre.
]]>Mar 18th 2010 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 1:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/
]]>Mar 18th 2010 5:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/"If the provider offers a self install for leased set-top boxes, they must also allow self install of a CableCARD."

yesssss. Freakin comcast wants to charge me 50$ to have a tech drive to my house and install the thing into my tv. I told them to keep their money.
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You can argue that they would not dare to do it, but based on past history of decisions by these companies, you would be wrong.]]>Mar 18th 2010 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/a-cablecard-replacement-is-due-by-december-2012-bandaids-by-thi/Mar 18th 2010 3:39PM