http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/ Engadget Comments for Ceton InfiniTV 4 CableCARD tuner review http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Nope, after we figured that out there weren't any more glitches.]]>Mar 30th 2010 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Apr 19th 2010 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
I wouldn't be surprised, but it might be USB 3.0 which your WHS might not have. There aren't any w2k3 drivers yet anyways, so at this point it is all speculation.]]>Mar 30th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Bandwidth issues with USB 2.0? That's odd. A HDTV stream is about 20Mb/sec, and USB 2.0 has around 300Mb/sec of usable bandwidth out of 480.

20 * 4 = 80. Seems odd to me. Must be something I'm missing.]]>Mar 30th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Those are peak rates, digital video streams are very sensitive to any bus issues, just ask people who use the HD PVR. Some go out of their way to buy a dedicated USB card to prevent interference from other USB devices. ]]>Mar 30th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Oh I see. So probably the best way to support both my WHS and watch live TV on my 2 networked PCs is to get 2 HD HomeRuns with CableCard.]]>Mar 30th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/The CableCARD stuff is all academic to me right now given I had terrible Comcast service and moved to DirecTV, but I'm hoping eventually I'll move somewhere I can switch to FIOS or similar.]]>Mar 30th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://support.microsoft.com/kb/974324/en-us]]>Mar 30th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
There's a bunch of third-party add-ins that work much better for (non WTV/DVR-MS) movie and TV libraries.

I personally use myTV for transcoded TV series, and use the built-in Movie Library alongside the YAMMM metadata scraper. In the past I used MyMovies, and there's also "MediaBrowser," but I just find the Movie Library works well enough for my needs for that.

Don't get me wrong, there's some issues with it. I hate how extender codec support is so limited, and how I can't use a PC as a Softsled, and that I can't run MediaCenter on my WHS and just put extenders all over the network.

But I find the interface is the best I've used on any DVR or similar HTPC software. The others either don't support all of my media including the transcoded stuff and music libraries, or don't support live TV, or are just plain ugly.]]>Mar 30th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
I tried Media Browser, but wasn't really a fan. I might as well just launch xbmc in media center at that point. I tried a bunch of stuff on hack7mc and the problem was everything just felt hacked... I am sure I could see myself enjoying it more if i had the live TV experience, but I wont drop the cash on a ceton tuner till there are new extenders and a windows home server announcement, or the doors are opened on software cert. restrictions and mythTV/the open source community gets something running. That last caveat alone should trigger some nice competition forcing Microsoft to keep Media Center updated and relevant. ]]>Mar 30th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
A hotfix will remain a hotfix until it can be fully regression tested which can out prioritized by other fixes. I would expect to see it in SP1.]]>Mar 31st 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
FiOS and U-Verse have almost nothing in common other than they are both telcos. So yeah U-Verse has a limit, but FiOS doesn't as it is just like any other cable company, CableCARD support and all.]]>Mar 30th 2010 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/You may have a bit of a wait. Three hasn't been any talk on their forum since the announcement of the new cableCARD regulations due this Fall. They may be rethinking their plans and it might impact how they handle tuning adapters and the fact that right now they can't split the tuners between hosts.
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What are the specs on the PC you are using? I'm trying to determine if I would need to purchase a new PC or would need to upgrade. The minimum specs Centon lists are pretty low end (I meet those). I can watch and record OTA with no problems now.]]>Mar 30th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
My PC is way overkill, (xps 420) if you can watch ATSC HD then you should be fine as long as your have the required HDCP video card etc for the DRM.]]>Mar 30th 2010 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Hmmm. I don't have an HDCP video card or monitor. I was planning on using the PC as a server to Xbox 360s, but it might be nice to use it on the PC sometimes.]]>Mar 30th 2010 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
My understanding is that the Digital Cable utility won't enable CableCARD support without an HDCP enabled video card.]]>Mar 30th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/You're going to have to run and pass the MS DIgital Cable Advisor before you can install this card in Media Center. That will require HDCP support. You might want to pick up a video card and borrow a monitor to run the DCA and install the tuner and then you could use the 360 after that.]]>Mar 30th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Thanks. I've been looking for an excuse to buy a new computer and monitor, but I guess the more rational thing to do is to buy a card and borrow a monitor. I'll run the advisor when I get home.]]>Mar 30th 2010 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Thanks Ben. I guess I'll look up if my current card can do HDCP. My monitor should be HDCP compliant. It has an HDMI output, and I connected it to my Motorola cable DVR before and got a great picture. Those things usually complain if the HDMI or HDMI to DVI cable is not running HDCP on it.

Now I need to decide one of two things...
upgrade my main PC, and run the DVR extended, with a 360...
or build a dedicated HTPC with a low profile case and sit it right under the main TV.

Hmm... I'd get more out of just upgrading my main PC - because I can spend more and get more out of it (like game, do business, or surf the web). But will the 360 being turned on 24/7 shorten the life of it much?]]>Mar 30th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
I use my main PC as my HTPC by adding a monitor, so I have a 56" tv on one output and a 19" monitor on the other. Media center competes with the mouse focus when you use the remote but other than that it actually works pretty well. Had to get a longer VGA cable to extend the 19"monitor and a signal booster to prevent ghosting (some video cards have weak signal output) but I love the setup. Wireless keyboard and mouse help too. I'm lucky that I happen to have a bedroom closet behind my living room so all my equipment is in that closet with cables going through the wall. This makes the living room experience silent and don't have to bother with the 360 except in the bedroom. ]]>Mar 31st 2010 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
does WMC keep its interface open in your monitor while the video plays on your tv? Or so you have to a) run WMC on the plasma only or b) run WMC on your monitor and then move everything to your tv when video starts to play? I'd like to be able to use the guide on the monitor while the video plays on the tv.

Regarding mouse focus - I haven't tried anything myself but reading on the interweb I've heard of a program called maxifier or something like that has anyone tried it?]]>Mar 31st 2010 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
How does the network bridging work? I understand that bridging the Ceton's "NICs" with one on your LAN will allow data from the tuners to be sent out to the LAN via your network-attached NIC, but how are those tuners discovered on the remote machine? I understand that the tuners can't be split between 2 different machines at the moment, but if I wanted to route all 4 tuners to a remote machine, I don't understand how Media Center on the remote machine would all of a sudden discover 4 tuners just because data from those tuners was on the network.]]>Mar 30th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
The InfiniTV shows up in windows as a NIC and MC finds the tuners via UPnP. So it works exactly the same way, it is just using windows as a bridge (a multiport bridge is called a hub).]]>Mar 30th 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Ah, interesting! I didn't realize that MC discovers tuners via UPnP; I thought it simply scanned the machine for actual hardware. Nice!]]>Mar 30th 2010 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Once bridged, you can run tv set-up inside Media Center as long as that machine has passed the DCA.]]>Mar 30th 2010 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Thanks, Ben. I can't wait for mind to get here!]]>Mar 30th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 30th 2010 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 31st 2010 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/Mar 31st 2010 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
How is that legal? Why hasn't the local franchising authority done anything to change that situation?]]>Mar 31st 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Not sure. Maybe a licensing fee?]]>Mar 31st 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/ceton-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-review/
Mitchell]]>Mar 31st 2010 10:46AM