http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/ Engadget Comments for Ceton's InfiniTV 4 CableCARD tuner delayed again http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 21st 2010 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 21st 2010 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://cid-e9cc6427eb3090ad.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/HTPC%20Build^J%20Spring%202010]]>May 21st 2010 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
At least I'll have my HTC EVO to keep me busy until then (trying to think positive).]]>May 21st 2010 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
It is good to know that sales have at least met expectations also. Shows there is a market for this, should encourage Silicon Dust and Happuage to continue with their tuner cards as well.

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I don't believe the Silicon Dust product is due before the holidays. And Happauge hasn't even formally announced a product other than they are "working on one." And even if Silicon Dust / Happauge complete the product who is to say they won't run into the exact same issue? I would imagine that these cards share a lot of common parts.

Ceton has plenty of time]]>May 22nd 2010 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 22nd 2010 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 22nd 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 22nd 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
The more they delay, the more likely I get the Silicon Dust CableCARD tuner.]]>May 22nd 2010 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
I'm still not clear if Ceton's card will allow other machines to use the tuners(I read this as all 4 can be used as a block, not split, see link below) by another PC on the network. SiliconDust's pending networked model is more intriguing to me for now. Can anyone sell me on Ceton over SD's HDHR? I hope this legal minutia can get resolved so I can just get the flexibility I want to legally get the content I paid for in my own house to my own devices.

To me, the whole point is streaming live and recorded content from the Host PC to other PCs is avoiding the ridiculous costs for the Cableco DVR and STB monthly lease fees and only requiring one hardware tuner(set) in the household. C'mon, I've got 3-4 other PCs capable of receiveing a signal from the host PC, but I'm locked out because 1 of the 4 tuners is in use? Ridiculous!

http://www.cetoncorp.com/support_faq.php#faq_321
http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8523&start=15&sid=e0e64e1fab3e1c2507161e11f9c81554]]>May 23rd 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
I'm still not clear if Ceton's card will allow other machines to use the tuners(I read this as all 4 can be used as a block, not split, see link below) by another PC on the network. SiliconDust's pending networked model is more intriguing to me for now. Can anyone sell me on Ceton over SD's HDHR? I hope this legal minutia can get resolved so I can just get the flexibility I want to legally get the content I paid for in my own house to my own devices.

To me, the whole point is streaming live and recorded content from the Host PC to other PCs is avoiding the ridiculous costs for the Cableco DVR and STB monthly lease fees and only requiring one hardware tuner(set) in the household. C'mon, I've got 3-4 other PCs perfectly capable of receiving a signal from the host PC, but I'm locked out because 1 of the 4 tuners is in use? Ridiculous!

http://www.cetoncorp.com/support_faq.php#faq_321
http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8523&start=15&sid=e0e64e1fab3e1c2507161e11f9c81554]]>May 23rd 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 23rd 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
It's one thing to show off a prototype at CES and get everyone buzzing without any timetable for actually delivering a working product--that's just good marketing... gets everyone thinking twice about blowing the gadget budget for the year. It's quite another to announce not one, but two ship dates, miss them both with a week's notice, and the second one after taking preorders! I understand the gadget world moves at breakneck speed, but seriously do you think moves like this inspire confidence in the consumer base or just plain out piss them off?

Pre-order canceled. Waiting for SiliconDust offering since that's probably vaporware too, but at least they haven't (yet) demonstrated utter incompetence in translating cheap online buzz into an actual production unit.]]>May 23rd 2010 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
If you really want to wait until this winter to get a Silicon Dust card, while the rest of us are enjoying ours next month, that's your call. Unfortunately for you, cancelling your Ceton pre-order puts you at the end of the list, since they are shipping them in order of orders received, so even if you changed your mind and wanted to get one at launch, now you probably won't make it.]]>May 23rd 2010 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
I'm not a hater but they are saying parts (i.e. something beyond their control), but we really don't know what the hold up is. Ceton has yet to put a product on the shelf and SiliconDust is already in Beta. While I like the concept more than the solution, I'm pulling for them. I've bene hoping for something like this for years now, the ATI was less than optimal and this would be workable. Being able to share on all computers would be great without having to have a dedicated server, its not like there is a wealth of WMC extenders available.

Time will tell but right now the holidays are just as close as an another unknown release date.]]>May 24th 2010 6:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
Ceton has been talking about this for 2.5 years or better. Do not hold your breath. ]]>May 24th 2010 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
Again, I understand this is not abnormal in this market, and that many of these products never see the light of day at all. I just think this HTPC community needs to stop giving vendors free passes for unprofessionalism, false statements and incompetence of this magnitude just because we're "excited" about some new flavor of the month shiny object. I much prefer SiliconDust's silence and "when it's ready" tact to this ongoing string of broken promises from WMC vendors in particular, and HTPC vendors in general. Many are more patient and forgiving, and would rather get bad news than no news, and that's your prerogative. I demand more as a consumer.]]>May 24th 2010 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
Doesn't really matter to much to me, i've been waiting years for a viaable solution, and at this point TV is becoming less relevant with online content, if it weren't for Sports I'd probably pass on either solution.]]>May 24th 2010 6:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/May 24th 2010 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/First Ceton in my opinion is ahead of SiliconDust because they had their beta and all beta testers, this site included got the card installed and were happy with it. I will say that I am disappointed because they should have prepare with suppliers so this would not happen. I'm hurting here because I changed from Dish Network to Cox Cable and now I wont be watching HD for a while.

On the sharing tuners bit yes I do own a HomeRunHD and I do like it, but it has it's problems too. Sometimes after watching something in one room and using my laptop it tells me no tuners available. So I don't think that SiliconDust or Ceton can really solve that. Instead Microsoft needs to make an extender version of media center for computers. That way you only have one computer that has all tuners and others will just connect to it as an extender. To tell you the truth if I can I will be buying both the Ceton and the SiliconDust products one for the living room and one for the Den. ]]>May 24th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/No question that Ceton should be well ahead of anyone entering the arena as far as what's been reported. I just know how difficult it is to do something for the first time. Especially when everthing is very new.

And an amen to Windows should be able to act as an extender!!!

I'm on Cox as well and will be breaking down and leasing a box for the World Cup, hopefully it goes back for the other football season.]]>May 24th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/cetons-infinitv-4-cablecard-tuner-delayed-again/
PS: only after spending hundreds of my hard earned dollars I figured chances to succeed in this market are so low: windows media center has a pretty face, but always have a problem here and there, and the whole thing doesn't work as expected. One day is the vide resolution that changes to 1024x786, other day it doesn't go back to sleep after recording middle the night, then it hangs for awhile want antivirus decides to do full scan during during a show. But I guess ceton will always be a small player in this market given so little people have htpcs (relatively speaking, of course) and never get mainstream and be able to bring prices down.]]>May 27th 2010 2:23AM