http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/ Engadget Comments for Ask Engadget HD: Best HDTV for gaming, pwning? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/I would also recommend to calibrate the display, particularly the grey-scale so you can open up your shadow detail for seeing enemies hiding in shadow corners. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/
That's a pretty dumb idea. You'll want it calibrated correctly for cable, but for video games you'll want to dynamically boost the colors so you can see more detail. If you have everything accurate you won't be able to see shit in dark games, because they're mean to be dark. You'll have an advantage if you boost the brightness. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/
haha ok, I kid...but expect that response when you go to Bestbuy.]]>Jul 29th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/
ain't that the truth. Never let your friends over pay for cables. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/
I agree with the Plasma.

However, you do get image retention which is kinda scary, but it does go away. I played Batman: Arkham Asylum on my 2009 Panasonic, and I got scared because the Health semi-circle HUD icon could still be seen the following day. It was hardly noticeable and went away anyway after a couple hours of normal TV use, but I was a bit nervous.]]>Jul 29th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/
Phillip, you mention things like counting frames, which means that you cannot rely on people who are just saying, "I think it looks great" or "I haven't noticed any lag". :roll eyes:

Phillip, you are a SERIOUS gamer, and therefore, you need REAL information about input lag. What you've been told here so far is NOT going to cut it for you!

First things first, no 50-55" flat panel HDTV is going to be 100% free of input lag. But you CAN get down to about 16ms, which is ONE FRAME of input lag. That is pretty darn good and invisible to the naked eye when things are in motion. Generally speaking, up to about 32ms (or two frames) of lag is considered excellent for a flat panel, but if you're counting frames, even that might be too much lag.

The new Panasonic VT25 plasmas have been tested and shown to have excellent, low input lag of one frame or less. The same cannot be said for Samsung and LG plasmas or even other Panny plasmas. Panny is generally better with 2 frames of lag or thereabouts. Some of Samsung's plasmas are up over 85ms, which is over 5 frames! So you cannot just say, "plasma is good". No sir, it depends on the specific make AND model. But the VT25 Panasonics are about as good as a flat panel can get.

Now, the VT25 will only look its best in a dim or dark room. Being a plasma, it washes out a bit in normal or bright lighting. Also, being a plasma, you CAN still get image retention or mild "burn-in". I have owned 3 plasmas and all of them have eventually shown some mild burn-in after I've used them for hours upon hours of gaming.

In the LCD world, it's a lot harder. IPS panels generally have low input lag, but you won't find IPS panels on sizes larger than about 37" generally speaking. Sharp (and the Sony and Samsung models that use Sharp-made panels) is generally better in the larger screen sizes for LCD. The E77U series, in particular has been tested and shown to have less than 2 frames of input lag.

Sadly, most large LCDs these days have glossy screens, poor screen uniformity (corners are brighter, flashlighting, backlight clouding) and terrible off-axis viewing.

The LG LH90 (a 2009 model - now discontinued) was ok, with just over 2 frames of lag. It had a matte screen and better screen uniformity (though not perfect). As a television though, it is the only large LCD that I can tolerate due to the major (IMO) image quality short-comings of virtually all other large LCD displays!

So:

great image quality and almost no lag; but needs a dim or dark room to look best = Panasonic plasma - VT25 in particular

Very good image quality, but higher (2 frames) lag = LG LH90

Low lag, no fear of plasma burn-in; but poor (IMO) image quality with glossy screen and uneven screen uniformity = Sharp E77U LCD

There's no free lunch!]]>Jul 29th 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 29th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 30th 2010 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 30th 2010 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Jul 31st 2010 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/Aug 1st 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/it costs 1960 $
here is the review to the vt25: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-viera-tc-p50vt25/4505-6482_7-33941234.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

where to buy it: http://www.justbuyelectronics.com/prodinfo.phtml?id=925&ref=grabber]]>Aug 2nd 2010 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/ask-engadget-hd-best-hdtv-for-gaming-pwning/
review:http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-viera-tc-p50vt25/4505-6482_7-33941234.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

buy it:http://www.justbuyelectronics.com/prodinfo.phtml?id=925&ref=grabber]]>Aug 2nd 2010 12:01AM