I can tell they broke the first rule, but what about the second?

I agree with squiggleslash, neither Apple, nor Microsoft (nor myself) thinks BD will take off. I believe it will be the media of choice for videophiles for a time, and never overtake DVD.

The future is for digital downloads for the movie renters and memory-based media for the movie buyers.

Netflix reported that Blu-ray discs had a higher failure rate than of DVD (or HD DVD) in their Annual Report Filed 02/25/09 for the Period Ending 12/31/08:

"Studios have begun to release films in high definition format on Blu-ray. This new high definition format DVD has higher damage rates
than we currently experience with standard definition DVDs. If we were to see a significant increase in the number of Blu-ray DVDs we ship or an increase in the percentage of Blu-ray DVDs our subscribers take and the damage rates remained higher than standard definition DVDs, our gross margins, profitability and cash flow could be adversely affected. "

Most likely this is because of the hard coating being more brittle and thus more susceptible to cracking during shipment.

ZeitgeistXIII @ Who uses a VCR anymore?

The button functions and their icons/legends are completely customizable. You connect to Logitech's servers and tell it to download the exact configuation and remote code sets that you need for your equipment.

Mine now has "buttons" that read HD DVD, Blu-ray, Xbox 360, etc., for example.

I don't believe Toshiba has ever stated that this should replace HD DVD or Blu-ray, just that it can make your SD collection look better.

I have over 1600 DVDs. I would like them to look the best they can on my HDTV. I doubt that majority of them will ever be released on BD (which I also collect) because I consider it and HD DVD to be a high end niche for videophiles.

I don't know if BD will outlast SD, but I doubt it. I collected laserdisc, but VHS outlived that videophile format, also.

Toshiba is merely taking advantage of the billions of DVDs already out there. All the other player (and HDTV, apparently) manufacturers are also doing this - why pick on Toshiba?

A couple bad reviews aside (and some personal vendetta against Toshiba by Engadget for some odd reason), the Toshiba upscaling XDE is amazing.

I'd like to see a head-to-head comparison to this Hitachi.

I did go Blu in late 2008, but I've stopped buying discs because of the economy and the high price of the media. I may buy a few more of my most desired movies in 2009.

I'm happy with my large HD DVD collection and upconverting my 1800 DVDs for now.

Hmm, on their difficulty scale from 1 to 8 where 1 is "Idiot Proof" and 8 is "Insanely hard, you need Industrial machinery equipments", the installation difficulty for a mod kit for my Panasonic HD BD-55 is listed as a 9!

Event Horizon has been announced for December 30 in the US.

Where I live in the US, PS3's are almost non-existent and almost considered some sort of a joke by the gamer community. Everyone I know has a Xbox 360.