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This pretty much sums up the current situation

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@ Tye

You are thinking of Paramount. Universal have been red all along and have nothing at all forcing them to stay so AFAIK.

I cant see how anybody involved in HD-DVD can possibly see any future in the format so Toshiba should just get making BluRay players.
You should go with the PS3. Its not only one of the best players on the market but its also an award winning media centre. Its a no brainer really.

@ john

If someone asks what Bluray player they should buy answering that they should buy a HD-DVD player is retarded especially seeing as HD-DVD is on the brink of extinction if Warner go exclusively with Bluray which is looking highly probable. I suspect you are one of these 360 fanboys who seem to be under the misguided impression that BluRay is owned by Sony so it is therefore evil. Grow up.
The only thing thats given HD-DVD a glimmer of hope is their price advantage but that wont last. Even with that advantage they haven't done well. They have sold 750,000 stand alone players compared to 700,000 stand alone BluRay ones. Seeing as HD-DVD players are cheaper and they have been on sale for longer thats not good at all for HD-DVD. Especially when you remember that BluRay also has over 6.5m PS3's and that is currently rising by nearly 1m a month lol
The PS3 was selling well before the price drops. Its actually sold more units in its first year than the Xbox 360 did in its first year. That's a pretty big achievement considering it has a far higher price and all of the huge exclusives due to be released on it this year have been pushed back to 2008.

You should also remember that the 360 was on sale in all 3 regions for all of its debut year while the PS3 was only released in the EU 7 months ago so it has performed far better than the 360. Worldwide both systems have sold an average of 500k units per month since launch but as I said the 360 needed a low price and all of its big titles to do so while the PS3 made do without.
None of those are as good as GT and you know it.
Hilariously though Sony still sold more games consoles overall that Microsoft meaning they are obviously still more popular as a gaming company in the US last month even with the release of Halo 3.

Here are some figures posted on another site for total US games console sales last month:

Nintendo - 996,800
Sony - 618,500
Microsoft - 527,800

Japanese totals for last month were hilarious:

Sony - 613,623
Nintendo - 413,061
Microsoft - 10,574

Only a total retard could fail to see that Microsoft are getting their asses whooped big time by Ninty and Sony and even Halo 3 couldn't change that.

Its not a question of can Sony recover its a question of will the 360 actually outsell the original xbox? Worldwide its been bombing all year and while the PS3 has an incredible line up of exclusives for next year the 360 has none of any note at all.

The PS3 will overtake the 360 in total sales by the end of next year.
People are also going to choose the format that they perceive as winning. I looked on Amazons top 100 DVDs the other day and there were only 2 HD-DVDs on there compared to 26 BluRay titles. Nobody who sees that is going to think HD-DVD is the format to go for no matter how cheaply they sell the players.
HD-DVD are going to lose this format war, there is absolutely no doubt about it. Stand alone players are selling badly for both formats because people just dont see a reason to upgrade. That doesn't matter for BluRay though because they are still getting millions of players into peoples homes in the PS3. In the UK for instance there are around 20m households and over 1m PS3s. That means of course that over 1 in 20 households in the UK owns a BluRay player. By the end of next year that figure will probably be less than 1 in 10 or even as low as 1 in 5.

A household that has a BluRay player already isn't going to choose HD-DVD if they do HiDef and friends of that householder will also be more likely to choose BluRay.
Dumbest article ever.

The PS3 is selling faster worldwide than the PS1 and PS2 did and outside of the US its also selling faster than the Xbox 360 did.

Thats a great sign for Sony seeing as they havent released any of the big games yet and its still expensive.





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