If you regularly carry lots of very large items then a Caravan stow-n-go system is a good idea. In three years of ownership I’ve never had anything that didn’t fit either behind the middle seats or between them.

Before we bought my wife’s Odyssey we tried out all the mini-vans and big SUV’s and by far Dodge’s s-n-g seats were the hardest and cheapest feeling. I want a living/family room on wheels in a mini-van. I want a comfy couch like feeling with good video and sound and nice amenities for the driver. Heated/cooled seats, navigation and backup camera, Bluetooth, etc. Also someone needs to put automatic shades in the second row so when they start whining about sun in their eyes I can just hit a button instead of stopping or fighting with them (talking little kids in car seats here).

And America continues it's trek towards becoming the India and China of European manufacturing.

No one in the market for a mini-van cares all that much about the styling. Sure you don't want it to be ugly but as long as its very comfortable and reliable and holds everything you are pretty much set.

I really like those second row seats. I can see some great PS3 smackdown on the way to the beach. Was thinking of a Ford Flex as a replacement for the wife's Odyssey but we'll need to take a look at this one.

The issue I have with the new roof standard is it adds more weight up high which reduces performance and fuel economy and can potentially add to the ability of a vehicle to roll over.

I read the site for a while, enjoyed Jonny's reviews and Franks posts but the site is very negative, always looking for the bad and upset if they don't find it. He was right about GM filing chap. 11 years before it happened so I'll give him that but he just seems like a bitter man filled with his own self importance.

Too bad they didn't show more of the GT, love that car.

Seems like a good tool for a student, especial any kind of design major. I can see it working in some business settings but people will still need the blackberry for most communication. Not sure how this would be of use to me day-to-day as I have a computer, laptop and smartphone.

Speaking of C&D and R&T's times as in 3.3 for C&D and 3.4 for R&T.

Hope they like the unemployment line.

Also Ford is still down on the year, check the overall figures.

While not as pretty you could also get the Panamera turbo for $10k less, carry four people and stuff and only be .1 seconds slower to 60.