I need to get this to compare with the tilt, and Sprint touch pro.

Blu-ray will be around for awhile, as for downloads this seems to be a reoccurring argument enough of it already. We all know that one day that will be the way to do things but not while ISP’s are limiting your bandwidth. And don’t forget all the DRM that they want in downloads to keep people from pirating or sharing like wanting to watch it at a friend’s place without purchasing it again. I see physical media as the standard for at least ten more years, and even after downloads overtake physical media it will still be many more years before physical media is gone, just look at CD’s everyone said that they were worthless once everyone started to download MP3’s, well CD’s are still here even with sales being down.

Installed it last night without a hitch, it sucks that it messed up some peoples systems but there has to be something in that all the effected systems have in common I'm sure Sony will figure it out once they got their hands on a few bricked systems to dig into.

PS3 80GB model, firmware 2.40

Exactly, until SP2 came out that windows XP became a really stable OS, when I had to reinstall xp I could only find my OEM XP with no service packs after the install I got all kinds of BSOD and poor performance finally when and downloaded XP with SP2 and reinstalled, and what do you know no BSOD.

Now I have been using vista since M1 back when it was still longhorn with less than half the issues I had with XP but I don't buy crappy hardware. How can a company be innovative if people want to continue to use outdated or crappy hardware. Would you expect XP to run on a commodore 64, I'm sure that someone has tried.

Also most people hate change, XP, office and a slue of others have not had major changes until vista came out and people didn't like that they couldn't find things in vista or office, so they say they are going to move to a mac which is going to be the same scenario of having to learn something all over.

All that being said, every OS out there has their good and bad points, so pick the on you want and use it, be happy, and have fun. I use windows XP, widows Vista, Mac OS X, Ubuntu Linux, and FreeBSD.

Exactly, until SP2 came out that windows XP became a really stable OS, when I had to reinstall xp I could only find my OEM XP with no service packs after the install I got all kinds of BSOD and poor performance finally when and downloaded XP with SP2 and reinstalled, and what do you know no BSOD.

Now I have been using vista since M1 back when it was still longhorn with less than half the issues I had with XP but I don't buy crappy hardware. How can a company be innovative if people want to continue to use outdated or crappy hardware. Would you expect XP to run on a commodore 64, I'm sure that someone has tried.

Also most people hate change, XP, office and a slue of others have not had major changes until vista came out and people didn't like that they couldn't find things in vista or office, so they say they are going to move to a mac which is going to be the same scenario of having to learn something all over.

All that being said, every OS out there has their good and bad points, so pick the on you want and use it, be happy, and have fun. I use windows XP, widows Vista, Mac OS X, Ubuntu Linux, and FreeBSD.

I remember XP with no service packs was full of bugs and BSOD, it wasn't until SP2 that XP finally became a stable os and I would expect that vista won't be fully stable until it reaches SP2. The two problems with vista I hear people complain about are hardware and software, well its time to retire that pc from 1998 and buy something new, how can a company be innovative when people want to keep using 10 year old software, easy don't support it any more. It's not Microsoft's fault that manufactures tried to use crappy hardware or that Nvidia writes drivers for vista causing it to crash if you read the screen during install it says "that this driver is not signed by Microsoft do you wish to continue" then they blame MS because they got BSOD.

[Buy good hardware not junk]

I have no problems with vista, all I did was dump the cheap out of date hardware. (Asus A8NSLI deluxe mother board, 2gb memory, Ge-force 8500GT graphics card with HDMI out, terabyte of sata hard drive space, Hauppauge PVR 150, Pioneer Blu-Ray drive, DL DVD burner. All work and no crashes.

I have been using Vista since it was in beta and have had only minor issues which every time it was because I purchased cheap hardware. It seems to me that people do not like change, and vista was a big change in the UI people all the time tell me how they can't stand vista because they can't find anything. So buy good hardware and get used to it because the next version of windows is going to require good hardware as well and the UI will not be going back to the old style.

I'm not regurgitating anything moron, merely stating a fact that the PS3 games use both DVD 9Gb disks and Blu-ray disks FOR GAMES, 50Gb for a game means you won't have to compress anything, so maybe you should think before YOU speak. I'm talking about GAMES not movies.

If you already have a PSP you might as well go with the PS3 to get the most out of both devices, the X-Box 360 is a great gaming device as well but is limited by the DVD capacity at 9Gb of storage where the PS3 has the ability to use the Blu ray disk for games giving them 50Gb of storage for games. Microsoft said they plan not to make a Blu ray add on for the X-box 360 so no Blu ray for X-Box 360 users at this time.