I found it very confusing too. There are so many buttons to do things, I am never sure what does what. I often found that my guess was wrong.

The Nav is amazing and the screen res is nice but the rest is pretty crap. The keyboard was not useful. The UI is painful. Things don't move or flow very well. It felt very hacked together to me once I got into the device a bit more.

I don't blame people frustrated with ATT wanting to switch but a Vzn iPhone would be far superior to a Droid any day.

"through a combination of connections, persuasion, and his love for his company."

Don't forget that Apple bought NeXT for $400 M, so actually, Jobs took over Apple and MADE money doing it.

@John Doe..

How about less hostility. If this is a good phone for you, well by all means use it.

Even if you hate iPhone, no one can deny that though it has faults, it has pushed the industry to work on a new level. It has set a new standard. Yes, Android is more open but iPhone is more compelling, at least today. Both have value. A consumer can have a perfectly enjoyable experience on the iPhone, though closed, it does not matter to many people. Android is more open but, so far at least, it has not been as usable and compelling a product, at least in my experience. This goes beyond hardware specs but its also the case that Android can improve over time and leverage the work of many hardware makers. That is an advantage. And maybe people will like choosing their hardware.

And remember the industry has tried at times to collect around a standard OS with little success. Its also the case that open phone OSs have not had traction before now. If not for the iPhone and the disruptive threat it showed, all of these hardware makers would not have been interested in Android. They would still be making crap Windows Mobile devices.

These products take different paths, challenge each other and push innovation. No reason to hate.

Yes I don't get why I would want a mouse anymore. I use a trackball because I don't moving the mouse around all the time but really I would be happier with a trackpad of the same kind as what is on my laptop, on my desk full time.

Personally hate those buttons and turn them off at the first moment possible. Its too easy to click them while moving the mouse.

@jordan

It has a button in it for clicking so it does have tactile feedback.
Nothing wrong with scrolling with multi-touch - that is better than a wheel or ball. No moving parts, nothing to clean.

You are so negative about Apple, every post about them has a ton of negative comments from you. Are paid by MSFT for this? Seems like it. If not, if you hate them so much, why you do you even care to comment? Don't you have better things to do with your time than spread negativity? Seriously.

Agreed. All I want is the trackpad with click of the newer macbooks/pro on my desk.

I put my laptop in a stand otherwise I would use that one. Really I want the same experience on the desktop that I have when I use my laptop.

I need it for the gym. They have TVs on the wall and have a localcast of the audio on little FM stations that only work in the gym.

if they put a check for system in there it would not be a useful disk in many cases. like if if you had to install a new hard disk or if you needed to wipe and re-install the OS. I think Apple's intent was to keep things simple for customers. So that purchasers of 10.6 could simply install the OS once and not to get all Window-ish and first install an older crappy OS and then the upgrade on top of that. We should be grateful for that.

What I don't understand is why they did not at least come up with 2 boxes for the disk - one that at least says upgrade on it. Currently there is not "Upgrade" version, even nominally so I can't see how they can enforce the section of the EULA that says 10.5 needs to be there. Oh well.

It is an interesting question. Can they enforce restrictions on use beyond copying?

@jakem
Upgrading to Snow Leopard is very easy and it should still be recommended. What is not recommended is enabling a guest account at this point. I guess you could argue that there are many users whose data is at risk but it's not clear how many users have lost data because the actions needed to reproduce error which causes data loss are not that common and it is also not clear how probably a crash of the kind needed to have data loss is. Does this happen every time or one in 10k? While the guidance to not guest accounts at this point applies to a very large group, you can't say that many people have been affected. Affected would mean the suffered data loss.

@jordan
Data loss from Apple is always going to be a big story because its so unusual. Simply stating that the story is making the rounds with echo chamber of online media is not a good indication of how much real loss of data is occurring.