*Sigh* I chose an interesting time to read 1984(just finished it today).

@artshark And dies halfway through the day from the battery drain of doing it?

@al3d Right, but just because it has dll's buried in the system doesn't mean you actually have to deal with them. From when I had my HTC Touch(the original one), my experience was that I never, ever saw a .dll, or any mention of them. So they seem to be there just as much as the kexts on the iPhone or the packages on android are: existing but completely invisible.

@al3d The iPhone likely has kexts, too, and Android definitely has packages. On all 3 of those platforms, that kind of stuff is just hidden from the user. How do you think, say, the iPhone OS works? Magic Pixie Dust?

Hmm, I wonder what the context is of each of these layouts, especially the one on the bottom left with no spacebar.

@Endadget Oh, ya, there's no question that there's more freedom in those types of devices. At any rate, this got kinda sidelined, my original point was just that from my experience with the Zune HD, it's far easier to move music to your computer than it apparently is to do from the iPod.

@Endadget No, I was just saying that from my experience, since I own a Zune HD but don't have any of those other media players(except a G1, which I guess is loaded that way, but I don't really use it for music/videos).

At any rate, I would say that aside from the effort of installing it(which is arguable in either direction), it is easier to manage a music collection via the Zune Software than drag and drop through windows. You just don't have to worry about the directory structure or anything else and if you plug in the Zune it just automatically syncs up all your music, without ANY effort. You don't even have to tell it where to find the music since if you add any to any of the designated folders(which you can change/specify yourself) it automatically adds the songs to your library. It makes it much harder outside of windows and you do have to have the software but given that you have windows and the zune software installed, it's far simpler.

@cherryboom To be completely fair, as I noted above, speakers work via electromagnets which could be ever so slightly affected by electromagnetic waves but wouldn't be by infrared light. So you could make the claim that it reduces interference, but the signal to noise ratio is already so massive that you wouldn't be able to hear the difference.

@pika2000 Right, but if you don't have a windows box then you're unlikely to be using a Zune(unless you're using a virtual desktop/emulation/whatever environment that works with the Zune software), since it's well advertised that it only works on Windows. And, within those confines, it's incredibly easy to transfer stuff to the computer from the Zune.

@honogram
6: ???
7: Profit!